A WOW Moment with Vicki, Mercedes and Iesha (Date:12/03/2010)

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Why does this look like a food container? Probably something about internet issues. No, no, it's good now. It's not.

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It's cream soda for anybody who's wondering. Cream soda. Cane sugar.

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It's really good. Do you like cream soda? I have the sniffles.

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No, I love cream soda. It's like the best cream soda you'll ever taste.

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Does it beat? Yes. We already know which one you're talking about.

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Barks and A &W. A &W? Yes. And Barks? Yes. We'll change your mind.

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What do you think? It's smooth.

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It's not hypercarbonated. Right? There's just enough vanilla in that.

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There's three for five. Same on the shelf, but they're cold. There's just enough vanilla.

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Okay, sorry y 'all. I've never had that kind of cream soda. That's a good cream soda right there.

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Thank you to the Shipley's. Oh, that's what you like. Good taste buds.

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Imagine that. Okay, let me get my other part of my desk over here. Alright.

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I need a bigger table. You don't. I need a bigger table. Good evening everybody.

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Welcome to our Bible study. Tonight we were at the lovely Miss Aisha Howard.

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Soon to be a Mrs. Shipley. In about five months.

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Let me save this picture. Bless you. In about five months, she will be another

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Mrs. Shipley. Congratulations. Five months.

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Somebody's going to learn not to correct me. Somebody just doesn't math. I don't math at all.

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You should have seen me today at work. It was bad. You need more of a math. Ruby was just looking at me like, you don't math.

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I really don't. Alright, well we're at Aisha's tonight.

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In her cute little apartment. With cute little tiger. My turtle.

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My box turtle. She has a cute turtle. We'll show them to you all later.

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Don't let us forget. Has to make his debut. Are we on the right page?

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Please tell me yes. Pretty sure we are. It says, when

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Baptist Church live. Is that us? Public? Alright, there it is.

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Hi, Patty. That's what

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I just did. Hers isn't. Because I clicked on it to be sure.

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Anyways. Tonight we are at wonderful Aisha's house.

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I believe everyone knows Aisha. She did our adoption. She's done one on adoption.

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She didn't do our adoption. She did our adoption in one. I adopted them.

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Actually, kind of. She's your best friend. Hi, Scott Dad.

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Scott Dad. Both Scott Dads.

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You have two Scott Dads. I know. I was destined to have Scott Dads. Get on board.

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You're not a Scott. He is on Facebook. Yes. He is.

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I don't have two dads. I have a lovely mother and father. Is that fair?

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She just called my husband Dad. When she's at my house. Anyways. My name is

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Vicki. As you all know. Everyone knows Mercedes. Over here on the side.

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I think everyone knows Aisha. If you go to Whitten, you know Aisha. If you don't.

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This is wonderful and lovely Aisha. She is. They know my name four times.

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She's fabulous. She's wonderful. Fabulous and amazing.

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Do you need any more adjectives from me? Do we need more adjectives?

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Is it good? Because you're perfect. Hey. Mercedes is not liking this.

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Anyways. We have gathered together tonight. We're going to study. This is the first time we've done a study with Aisha by herself.

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We have done a study in the past. That is on the Whitten page. Not sure if it's on YouTube yet. I haven't seen it yet.

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It is one that centers around the subject of adoption.

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Because Aisha was adopted. She's been adopted again. Only to the faith of Christ this time.

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And Whitten. Three adoptions. Tonight she has chosen.

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She has chosen another subject. A different verse.

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She actually read off about 15 verses. But we're not going to cover 15 verses tonight.

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We're only going to cover two different books of the Bible. Not the entire book of course. I think this is going to be a really nice study.

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Especially with these two young ladies. Because these two young ladies go way back. They've known each other for years.

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They've been friends for many years. 15 years.

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I'm the odd man out. As we go.

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As my age gets more, it's more years. But it's okay. Because they'll be able to speak part of my eulogy at the funeral.

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They'll remember things. No, I don't publicly speak. You're going to then.

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You would then. Aisha, what is the

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Bible verse that you have chosen to start us off with tonight? Thank you.

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John 15. Crap.

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Oh yes. 12 through 15. It's John 15 versus 12 through 15.

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Go ahead Mercedes. Read the scripture please. This is my command. Love one another as I have loved you.

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No one has greater love than this that someone would lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what

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I command you. I do not call you slaves anymore because a slave doesn't know what his master is doing.

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I have called you friends because I have made known to you everything

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I have heard from my father. I'm sorry y 'all.

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There are some really weird noises going on in this apartment. Upstairs neighbors?

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That one. I don't know. That was them. It sounded like a monster was trying to get into the house.

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What do you mean? Yes please. Sorry guys. We are not put together this evening.

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This is my command. Love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this that someone would lay down his life for his friends.

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You are my friends if you do what I command you. I do not call you slaves anymore because a slave doesn't know what his master is doing.

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I have called you friends because I have made known to you everything I have heard from my father. I have a small bag of trash out there.

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I wonder if the cat is trying to get into it. That's what it is. Why did you pick this first?

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I chose this first because it talks about friendship but not just a normal friendship a deeper friendship.

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Not only just a worldly human friendship but a friendship with God and the importance of a godly friendship because it starts there.

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Having that bond and that deep friendship with God gives us the perspective of what we should be with our human friends.

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This one was very touching to me because I feel like the 15 years me and Mercedes have had that we have definitely shown that friendship towards each other that we would literally lay our lives down for each other no matter what and we don't question it.

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We just do. Since we have both become closer to God I think that dynamic has changed.

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Definitely for the better but it has definitely evolved for sure.

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In the beginning when you just do your casual meet and greet the get to know you kind of thing and you over the years of us being friends obviously we've had our a falling out the last few months but we realized that our friendship was important and meant a lot to both of us and we were going to do whatever we needed to do to fix it to get it back to where it was that we could live past that hump.

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Reconciliation. Oh for sure. Before we even knew what reconciliation was. So using the word reconciliation, you both went to the same church for some time.

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That's where we met. And you both left that church about the same time.

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And after you left that church and you were just living basically for the world because you were living for the world.

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We were. I was trying to be kind of We're honest here.

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We were living for the world. And ourselves sometimes. We don't mean anything by it.

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When you came to Witten did you find yourself seeking that and be honest when you first came to Witten were you looking to reconcile your relationship with the world?

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Not at first. Yes. But not necessarily at Witten.

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The church I was previous going with that I felt like something was still missing not just in the sense of them but for me personally and for years and years and years even after we left the other previous church

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I always was like I knew that I needed to be in church but I was being in church for the wrong reason and I could never figure out what it was that I was why would

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I still go to church every Sunday and constantly you know I will admit

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I did pray all those prayers every time they would say it I would pray it and I'm like okay this is how

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I'm going to get my life together. I'm going to do right. I'm going to do it this time. Until Friday came along.

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Or Monday or whatever day then something would happen and I'd fall down and I'd go through my weeks and then

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I would pray again and was like I messed up again you know and I promise

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I'm going to do better and it was just like constant just fire and I was just getting tired and tired and tired of just constantly saying that and I'm like I'm not doing anything to change it.

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Like nothing. I'm just keep saying it in hopes that it was just going to magically you know miraculously change.

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I was like I can't say that magically change.

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So Mercedes I know because you've told your story

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I think on here before but it's something that's really it's not easy to do.

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No. It took a few months. Couple months for me to actually start seeking.

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So it's just like it took a couple months for you to mend things with your earthly flesh friend.

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But it took I guess the thought of abandonment for us to realize like oh no no no this does not feel right.

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Like we can't let it Yeah I get this text message going I'm moving to Florida. We cannot go to Florida with us being in the way we are.

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Yeah we can't. And I think we do that sometimes

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I mean God obviously is never going to leave us or forsake us but if we do not put our whole faith and our trust in him and then you know

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I can't remember the verse but he you know come time for judgment and he's going to be like I never knew you and you know after hearing yeah and after hearing that I was like oh no no

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I don't want that. You know what it took for me? It took driving down the road and going if I were to get into a fatal car accident and die right now

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I don't know what I'm doing. And that scared the mess out of me.

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Well if you look at verse 16 in John chapter 15 it's very very plain to see.

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You did not choose me but I chose you. You don't choose me. I choose you.

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I appointed you to go and produce fruit that will last.

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I can't see that produce fruit not your fruit should remain so whatever you ask the father in my name he will give you.

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This is what I command you love one another. And see you know before even understanding the

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Christ like love coming to Witten you walk in the building and you see it you see it before you even understand what it is.

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You know scripture says that others will know who we are by the way we love one another.

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Well let's go back for just a second before we get on to that pretty ray of sunshine and rainbows and showers because the part of you don't choose me

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I choose you. Life ain't easy when you know dog gone good and well that you've had that the

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Holy Spirit has already touched you the Holy Spirit has already said he punched me slammed you up against the wall a couple times dragged you through the muck body slam

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WWE dive into the mud pit right all that but life's not easy when you constantly get up supposedly dust yourself off and keep walking the opposite direction and I think that is where still today

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I know that sometimes you have an issue listening to him and I know sometimes you have issues when it's right there in your face

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I have issues when it's right there in my face but this part right here you didn't choose me

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I think they're moving furniture and their dogs you didn't choose me he chose us we were chosen before the foundation of the world yup and crew and who knew

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I was going to choose the creepy goth depressed anxious adorable

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Mercedes right and then you're marrying the hyperactive talk a lot eats a lot

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ADHD hey he knows how to pick them the lord's in your lives sweetie he really is they're both a catch and Paige you can't forget about Paige she's also in there oh yeah, that's right hey

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Paige if you're watching anytime soon we love you your future mother -in -law wants to see

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Tiger we're going to show you at the end of the show, I'm sorry I didn't notice that he will make his debut he says oh, somebody asked we'll talk about it later cool so, verse 13 verse 13 also you can go to Romans 5 where's it at 5, 7

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Romans 5, 7 no, 5, 6, and 7 6, 7, and 8

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I'm sorry sorry 6, 7, and 8 6, 7, and 8 it is a good book for while we were still helpless at the appointed moment

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Christ died for the ungodly for rarely will someone die for a just person though for a good person perhaps someone might even dare to die but God proves his own love for us and that while we were still sinners

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Christ died for us another one chicken back chicken back

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I decided too long I'm stuck in my head yes, chicken back, sorry not piggy

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I don't know what I'm going to do please be asked these 4, 9

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I read my own

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I just know you normally read things that I want to read Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their efforts.

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For if either falls, his companion can lift him up, but pity the one who falls without another to lift him up.

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Also, if two lie down together, they can keep warm, but how can one person alone keep warm?

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And if someone overpowers one person, two can resist him. A cord of three strands is not easily broken.

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There's three of us here. So after reading this one, actually it was one that was suggested to me,

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I was thinking, you know, one person, if I had a blanket and I'm outside in the cold or whatever, yeah,

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I would be warm, but I would be warmer with somebody else with me. We would be even more warm if we had that third party.

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And so then I was thinking in my head, I was like, oh, if there's just two of us, we're just, it's all, it's just a line.

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But you add that third person, now we have a shape. We have a triangle. And I was like, how cool is that?

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Like just that one piece, you add one more. Now we have a whole, like a whole piece instead of just a part of a piece.

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And we have a shape. Also, if we curve over, we can make a circle. I mean, some of us just do that naturally, but you know, that's a whole other thing.

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I am a circle. Well, when you think about that triangle effect, you know, like for married couples, you each are at, you each create that line.

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You add God as the point of the triangle. You keep your focuses on him, and you automatically come together to that point.

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You gravitate. No matter what. And it's the same with our friendship, you know, any friendships that we have.

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If you keep God as that point of reference. That whole triangle thing.

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Interesting. And then we get

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Mercedes Aisha and God. Mercedes Aisha, Mercedes Aisha, Mercedes Aisha.

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Right. That used to be. We were squiggly. Yeah, we were trying to get to that point, and we couldn't figure out what the point was.

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So we just fought over it. I know that it's hard, and I know that it's difficult.

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I know that it's, there's one thing that is never going to happen ever in your life, and that is where you completely see eye -to -eye, exact with another person, because that person is not you.

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Okay. Very true. But whatever relationship you're in. Excuse me.

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That was so weird. I mean. Well, it's.

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Sound check. What was

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I saying? It's hard. Life is hard.

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That's what we heard. Life is hard with God, but it's harder without. Facts.

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Right, and if you're close friends with somebody, number one, you should not be friends, really tight friends, with non -believers.

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You can't. And I'm saying. If you're a believer. I'm saying tight. You can't be. Tight believers.

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Now, you need to associate with them, because if you don't associate with them, then how are you going to. But that friendship's only going to go so far.

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You can't be a very tight friend with a non -believer. That's why

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I said that you have to associate with them. If you don't associate with them, then they will never see who you are.

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And they don't see Christ in you. So, but as long as you have true friendships, and you both believe in what this book says, and you live by it, then there is no way that you can go wrong.

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But I also feel like certain people are put in our lives for a specific purpose in that time, and then when it's time for them to exit, however that may be.

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Seasonal friends. Yeah. That you can reflect on it later on and be like, oh, that's why they were there.

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I needed to grow in this. I needed to realize this. I needed that thump on the head in that moment.

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So, it's like, don't be upset that now that person is no longer there, but pretty much rejoice in the situation that they were there for that small amount of time.

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And allow your seasons to change. Yes. Don't try to keep gravitating and hang on to the past.

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If you don't allow your seasons to change, you're not going to grow. I'm sorry, say that again.

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I knew you checked out. Yeah. If you don't allow your seasons to change, then you're not going to grow.

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Right. Just like our actual seasons, there's always new growth. Did you understand what

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I just said? Yes. I'm going to be short the rest of my life.

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Well, you're going to be short. I'm going to be harmless. She's going to dip is what she's going to do.

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But that whole season thing is really working methods. No, because it's 8 o 'clock, it's sunny. There are lots of places.

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No, it's rainy. There's lots of places in this world that they don't have seasons.

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Shoot, this morning I was like, I know I'm up after sunrise. Why is it so dark? It was sleety.

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Yeah, where did that come from? It was. It was just raining in the mountains. It was sleety in downtown. So, anyways.

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So that was seasonal change is good. It is.

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But you don't realize it in the moment. It's amazing. A lot of heartbroken. Oh, yeah. Devastated.

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And why is this happening? I've been there multiple times. I'm like, oh, I don't even talk to.

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Look, I don't even like, why don't I did I forget their name? I mean, we were cool for X amount of years.

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And now all of a sudden I have I don't remember. My name is

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Jackie. Hi, Vicki. Anyways.

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Well, you know. Oh, my God. There's also. Yes. If he's spilling some tea.

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Yes. I've been always spilling the tea. So you thought

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I was retiring last night. She's not going anywhere. But I'm a little upset.

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You haven't watched my polos yet. Busted you just now. Anyways.

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What a friend we have in Jesus. Verse 15 in John.

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I'm sorry. John 15. We're going back to John. I do not call you slaves anymore because a slave doesn't know what his master is feeling.

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I have called you friend because I have known made known to you everything I have heard from my father. Flip over to Galatians four seven.

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And it tells us you are no longer a slave, but a son. In some translations, it's a child, which

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I think. Yeah. So you're no longer a child, no longer a slave, but a child.

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And if a child and an heir through God. You're no longer slaves to sin.

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Right. But let's do keep one thing in mind now. Because I know we're talking about friendship here.

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And I know that he's talking about he's our friend and all this kind of stuff.

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But he is still sovereign. He is still

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God. He is still. He's still our savior.

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So, you know, because Pastor Jeff gets up and he'll say, you're not going to be high fiving.

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But he throws his foot up. So we need to always keep in mind that what he says is what goes.

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That's not what we say. We'll call him the head friend.

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He's the main one. You can look at it that way.

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If I was Italian, maybe. Also, you know, we tell the people that are close to us every single thing that happens in our lives.

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The good, the bad, the ugly. And we always forget to tell

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God everything. But it's like, we are like, oh, he already knows that. We do.

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Yeah, we do. And he's like, just because I'm, you know, he is a very jealous

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God. He wants to know everything, regardless if he already knows. And he wants you to ask. This is how

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I've always thought of it is, you know, if you're a parent, your kid does something wrong.

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You know what the kid did, but you want the kid to tell you anyway. It's the same thing.

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God already knows, but he still wants to hear from you. He still wants that communication.

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Just like your friend. Just like your parent. But then we even forget because we have such a close relationship.

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And I'll tell her something and she'll be like, you didn't tell me that. Are you sure? I thought

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I would have told you that. Like when you go out of town. I don't tell her when I go out of town. I find out the day before. Or on Facebook.

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And I'm like, oh, I didn't know. I haven't always been a great friend. I know. But working on that.

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I think things have improved. Yeah. Except for the whole her telling me when she's going out of town. Still working on that one.

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It's fine. It's fine. Everything's fine. I mean, I pretty much thought that was known.

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And I tell her to take me to the airport and keep my car. No. Like, I don't know. You take random day trips for work purposes.

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I don't do that. Unless you go to Franklin. You did. That's all of it. Oh, yeah. I knew about that.

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Think he knew? You know why she didn't know? Oh. It's on Marco Polo.

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It's on you. You didn't look at the Marco Polo. But you should always tell me. Anyways, we're going to not talk about that anymore.

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Moving right along. Yes. Back to friend and God and all his sovereignty.

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If the world hates you, understand that it hates me. Before it hated you.

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Do you want the world to hate you? Because we're

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Christians. By default. Yeah. I hate us. Is that okay with you?

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I got to fix with that. I mean, if you told me like, I don't know, 10 years ago, probably not.

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Like, no. I don't want everybody to hate me. I want everybody to love me and like me. Well, let me explain something to y 'all.

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I've watched something. And this is going to be a little off topic. Nothing.

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It's going to be a little off topic. But I really want to get y 'all's opinions on this. This is our study.

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And we get off topic a lot. Anyways, that's part of the whole kit and caboodle.

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But I watched a video last night of a man that was talking about the

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Antichrist. And I really take things with a grain of salt that I watch on any type of video or anything like that.

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Unless it comes from one of our pastors. Okay? Or one of the men of our church that I know he's done his studies and research and stuff like that.

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So, but this man was talking about the world is getting prepared for the

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Antichrist. And with y 'all being the ages you are,

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I want to know how you feel about this. Right? Because he was saying, how is it possible that it's okay to abort babies like it's nothing?

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I saw something today that was talking about how the world is going back to the days before the ark.

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Men loving men. Women loving women. And all the stuff that just gets shoved in God's face.

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I mean, you know, just... Anyway.

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But, so, he kept talking about how the world is being prepared for the

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Antichrist. And then I saw this other clip today that was about the world is more today like it was in the days of Noah, right before the ark.

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Now, y 'all have been in church for many years, so you know the story of Noah and Noah. Mm -hmm.

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Okay. How do you feel, or do you see that in the age that you are now?

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Does that make sense? In other words, I know that in my age, in my 50s...

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How things like that are much less taboo than they used to be. Right. Because 10 years ago when

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I was younger, people were saying, oh, this world is just coming to an end. This is just horrible.

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It ain't never been nothing like this. At that point, at the time that you're speaking of, there wasn't open gay marriages.

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No. There wasn't even... It wasn't even legal anywhere for gay marriages.

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And abortion wasn't common. Abortions weren't common. Divorce was... The divorce rates were lower.

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Yeah. Children born out of wedlock wasn't as common as it is now.

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Yeah, I can see it. It's much less taboo than it used to be. People were being...

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I think... The desensitivity of everything has heightened tremendously.

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Mm -hmm. For sure. Right. That's got nothing to do with our topic tonight.

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But it came to me, and it was something I wanted to ask. I was actually going to ask them when we had dinner. But I thought, hey, why not, too?

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This is our study. We can talk about what we want to talk about. It's a friendship. But anyways,

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Alan, this is what I can say, is that I'm very thankful that the

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Lord has brought the two of you into my life, along with everybody else that wouldn't.

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I have been very blessed in the past, I'd say, seven, eight years.

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But as I watch the younger people come into our church, and the love that people take them in, and we are a bunch of misfits.

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Big facts. Big facts. I mean, that is what we are. But we're a bunch of loving misfits.

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We're misfits. We don't have to be. But you know what? Misfits. Misfits. We might be misfits as far as just witten.

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But believers are misfits anyway. That's true. You're so right.

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We're supposed to be misfits. Yeah, I've also seen how people look at us when we're in the store together.

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You don't go to dinner with us. Yeah, you don't go to dinner with us. Even more so now that she doesn't have one hair.

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Well, we all do that sometimes. Just watch what people do. I'm telling you, we do it together.

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Aisha, I want to thank you so much for having us over tonight. She's about to feed us. We're having dinner here.

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We'll probably chat some more about when it's not dry. I'm sorry, people are watching.

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Oh, go get Tiger. Go get the turtle. Wake him up again.

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Here he comes, Gwen. We woke him up early. Yeah, he hisses. You have to put him up close to the camera.

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He's like, what is going on? Hello. There he goes.

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He's so cute. He's got orange on him, Pastor. He's got some orange on him.

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Oh, he does poop. Look at him. He says, hi.

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Hi, everybody. He hasn't warmed up yet or else his legs would be out.

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My name's Tiger. That's Tiger. Isn't he cute? He is cute.

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He has a lot of orange. He has a little bum leg. He's got another.

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There it is. There he goes. Now he's coming out. He's like, oh, am I a tamer? Pastor said balls.

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Now, roll, Tom. All the way. It's not that hideous orange. It's a pretty orange, though.

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It is that orange. Anyways, so thanks a lot for having us tonight.

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I always enjoy spending time with these two. I spend a lot of time with them, actually. Sometimes they probably wish the old lady would go home.

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That was such a deep sigh. It was just a sigh. Cool, maybe I won't stay forever.

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Right? It was not an anything sigh. It was just a sigh.

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Was this a study on friendship or no? It wasn't anything.

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It was just a, oh, oh. I got coffee. Gotcha. All right.

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Well, I hope you all enjoyed this study. I hope you all enjoyed this study with us tonight.

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Again, Aisha, I thank you for having us. Mercedes.

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Oh, another thing. I forgot. Make sure to check us out on Witten Media Ministry on YouTube.

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We have, I think we only have 19 of our Wows up there.

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But they're some of the first ones we did. So go check those out because some of them are pretty funny.

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Because at first we really did not know what we were doing. Well, if you watch this, you probably think we don't know what we're doing anyways.

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Still don't know what we're doing. Still. But go check those out on YouTube. Our YouTube channel is

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Witten Media Ministry. And then we have Tuesday nights

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Bible studies. Pastor Jeff does some of them. Christian Torres does some as well.

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Junior does some as well. But they're really, really, really interesting.

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Christian, he does an excellent job. He really hits the nail on the head when it comes to pinpointing on his studies.

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And then we have... It's time now. He's getting comfy.

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I took him out of his comfort zone. Well, there we have it.

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That's Tuesday night. Then Wednesday night is Andrew with the music ministry.

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And then Thursday night is us. And then Friday night's a night off. And then Saturday...

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Oh, y 'all have to check out Saturdays. Saturdays are incredible. They are question and answers with Pastor Josiah Shipley.

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And he will answer just about any question you have when it comes to Bible.

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Actually, when it comes to just about anything. He is very full of knowledge and does not mind sharing it.

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And he drops the knowledge. He drops the knowledge.

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But he does an excellent job at explaining himself also. I mean, it's incredible.

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I was actually thinking about it the other day. Because, you know, a pastor always gets up and talks about, you know, he could die at any minute and this, that, and the other.

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I could take a breath and that would be it. And, you know, and I'm good.

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So I've always told a pastor that he couldn't die before I die because he has to preach my funeral, right?

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So I told him, I said, you can't do that. I have to go first because you have to preach your funeral. Well, it's okay because now

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I am... You've got Pastor Josiah. I am very secure that Pastor Josiah will do an excellent job. So, not giving you permission to die.

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Nothing like that. It's just something that I think about. Teaching is definitely a gift of his.

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Yes, yes. And I know that at... Because I want my funeral to be...

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Lit, fire, fresh. Lit, fire, fresh. Gucci savage.

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Oh, yeah. All that stuff. And I want some knowledge dropped. And tea spilled.

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I want some tea spilled and some knowledge dropped at my funeral. Because my friends need to hear it.

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The ones that weren't written already. So, anyways, that's my wish.

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Now we know. Everybody knows. So, anyways, thanks for coming tonight. We're going to eat dinner. Mercedes says she's hungry.