2021 Review and 2022 Predictions

One, two, three. Welcome to Apologetics Live. We're here to answer your questions and challenges about God and the Bible. Meet your hosts from Striving for Eternity Ministries, Andrew Rappaport, Dr. Anthony Silvestro, and Pastor Justin Pierce.

We are live, Apologetics Live, here to answer your theological challenges, questions, whatever you have for us tonight. This is the Ministry of Striving for Eternity. We are here to try to teach you how to do better apologetics, and I am solo tonight.

That means not that I'm solo, that I'm under the desk. No, it means that I don't have any other co-hosts, which means, folks, you watching, I need you. I need you to come on in, ask your questions. It'll be much more entertaining than listening to me for two hours, I'm sure.

But if you have questions, you have challenges, instead of doing them in the chat like many of us do, well, many of you, I don't. Actually, I have the microphone right there. But we'd appreciate if you guys would come on in to apologeticslive .com, click on the icon there to be able to join us.

And so that's something you could do. Just go to apologeticslive .com, and the link to join is right there. It is the screen yard little icon, the duck icon, and you just click on that, and you can join us.

I don't know who Reverend DJ is, but he says, I know you need me. Yes, well, come on in. And I think I know who what DJ stands for, and so yeah, you can come on in, because I know you. He says that I know you miss me.

Well, we'd find out when you come in. But Anthony is still in Florida, and so he's down there. And Justin Pierce got tied up with some home responsibilities. His wife is under the weather, if you don't mind praying for her.

And he's taking care of the responsibilities, getting dinner ready and kids ready for bed and homework and all the things that this is what dads do. So I was joking with Dr. Silvestro saying that he's been busting on me for a long time, especially when Frank Mullis was with us and speaking, and Frank was pursuing his doctorate.

And since then, he basically said, okay, I'm too busy. And so he stepped away for a while. But Dr. Silvestro used to make fun of me. He used to refer to us when we'd get up, and he'd say doctor. He would refer to himself as doctor, and Frank is almost or soon to be doctor and then bust on me.

And so I was busting on him, telling him that I have an announcement that will fix that. But he's not here and Justin's not here, so it doesn't make it as much fun. So we'll wait till next week on that.

I do got a funny story for you though, because this just cracked me up. I laughed, I had to go and call my friend, Matt Slick, and tell him about this so he could get a laugh. Someone called the ministry, they were having some trouble placing an order online, and I picked up the phone.

And I think Mary was surprised she used to get me on the phone, but I happened to be the one that picked up and talked with her. And so she told me this story. And so folks, I hope that you can, this was not one of these ones where you laugh with me.

This is a story where you laugh at me, okay? Just saying that up front. Mary had called and told me that, helped her out with the problem. She moved on and she had told me, she said she wanted to know, basically what she was calling was she wanted to know the coupon code to get the book, What Do We Believe?, at 50 off, because we are running that in the month of December.

And so I told her the code, and she said, she explained the reason she didn't know was because she fell asleep to the podcast. To which I, of course, looking to make fun of myself at any opportunity, because there's plenty of material there, I said to her that I was, I said, well, it's good to know that I put you to sleep.

And she says, oh no, oh no, it's worse than that, Andrew. I said, worse than putting you to sleep, okay? I've heard people that jokingly will say, you know, that my sermons will put them to sleep or podcasts put them to sleep, but this is worse.

Okay, what's worse? And she proceeded to tell me that her dog cannot sleep unless she is playing either my podcast or Matt Slick's podcast in a loop. She said once, if she plays it, the dog falls asleep, and if it stops, the dog wakes up and roams around the house.

She said, in fact, the dog was hearing me on the speakerphone and was wagging his tail and got all excited. But she said her dog cannot sleep without the help of Matt Slick's voice or my voice. So there you go.

In case you were wondering if I was good for nothing, no, I am good for something and so is Matt Slick. We are capable of putting Mary's dog to sleep. But don't worry, the dog wakes up in the morning and is excited to hear her voice.

Oh, yes. So that was something I wanted to share with you guys. Some other things that I did have on the agenda, unless any of you guys come in with questions, and it's gonna be better to come in because I don't always get to watch.

Justin's the one that kind of watches all the chats and posts them. But I should welcome everyone. Happy New Year. This is the first Apologetics Live of the new year. I did offer many people to come in and give some challenges.

There were some folks online, and I may end up dealing with some of the challenges, some people that were basically saying miracle, there was a person who said that we should go out on the streets to evangelize and expect a miracle.

What kind of miracle were you expecting to see? Well, the miracles he was expecting to see on a regular basis is healings and other miraculous things. I said, well, can someone share with me, give me examples of these miracles you have.

One lady had explained that a miracle that God does today is she was thinking about her sister, and her sister, just as she was thinking about her sister because she wants to talk to her sister about something, her sister came down the stairs for breakfast.

I mean, like that doesn't happen every day, right? Your sibling would come down the stairs. Like that's not a miracle, folks. A miracle is something that's supernatural. Your sister coming down the stairs happens like every day.

So there you go. What have we got? Drew says, Drew from Matter of Theology says, Andrew's voice keeps me up at night mainly because I can't hear him in my head making fun of me. Or I can hear him in my head making fun of me.

Well, I understand that, Drew. There's probably a lot of material to make fun of with you as there is with me. But Drew does say this, and this is right. A person's salvation is the greatest miracle that could occur.

And that when people say, do miracles occur? I end up asking, what do you mean by a miracle? Because if you're saying something supernatural, well, taking a sinner's wicked heart that is described in the Bible as being stony, being an enemy of God, and adopting that person into the family of God, giving the Holy Spirit, indwelling that person to be regenerated, that is supernatural.

We cannot do that on our own, okay? And because of that, then that is a miracle when you go out on the street evangelizing. I would expect to see. And that's why I asked the gentleman, how does he define a miracle?

So that was one thing that I saw. Edison says, can I join? Sure, Edison. Just go to apologeticslive .com. And you should be able to click on the duck. Actually, you know what? I just realized I didn't set up the Apologetics Live page.

That's probably really helpful. So I'm gonna do that live. That's really good. To realize that I didn't set that up. Wow, that's a major. I will, let me put the little link here for those of you that at least are on YouTube.

So you have the link to join and I'll set that up really quick. That's a major mistake, right? So I should actually just share screen and let you guys see what it's like to set the page up. This is why you should not be setting these up late at night.

That's what I had done. Let me, while I'm setting that up, let me talk to you about some other things I wanted to share with you guys. There's some other things that I had seen that I thought very interesting for us to talk about recently.

On social media, I had seen a church that was trying to post in one of our groups. I think it was our Christian Apologetics group. And so it was Grace Church Online. I found that very interesting. I'll tell you why I did.

It was Grace Church Online. And what they had, what they did was they were looking to be an online church. Now, let me explain what they meant by that. The person had said that they had been, they were led by God some time ago to realize that church was just not being done the right way.

God revealed to them that they should do church online. And what ended up happening with that is essentially that you have a case where they felt that they were, and this is the thing I want you to recognize when people say it like this, they were told by God.

When someone says that they're told by God, if you were dared to question it, then what you're doing is you're questioning God. And that is what you have people claim. As if now you can't say anything against it because saying anything against it is to discredit God.

And just for a follow-up, you guys to know, I just am updating the page right now on Apologetics Live. Someone asked me why Apologetics Live was not showing on YouTube. And I said it was, but it probably was because I didn't set up the page right.

So my bad. So here's the thing. When people say they have, they go to an online church, can you do church online? I know that many of us during COVID with shutdowns, there were many people who said that they were doing church online.

So when we look at church, when we think about what church is, church is, it's gonna have pastors and deacons. It's going to have people that gather to do the one another's, love one another, bear one another's burdens, things like that.

It's gonna be a place where you use your spiritual gifts. This is what you end up seeing for what church is. Can you do that online? The answer is no. Drew is quoting MacArthur here and saying, there is no such thing as Zoom church, John MacArthur.

And that's basically the point. This person says he was brought, God gave him this revelation that he should do this. Well, the reality is God may have, you think God may have given you that revelation, but God would never give revelation that is opposite or contrary to what his written word has already said.

And so the written word defines church. And the things that we are to do in church, you cannot do on your own. And so I got some other things I wanna bring up, but I see Edison came in. And since he is on the other side of the world, I'm going to add him in because it's late there for him.

And so you just gotta unmute yourself there cause you're still muted. All right. Hi.

How you doing Edison? Doing great. We've actually just suffered a typhoon here during Christmas season. Now, were you affected by the typhoon? Our house actually is good. We were affected in a way that our electricity and waters were cut off because of the posts that were affected.

All right. Hey, before I get to you real quick, let me answer someone's question with what I was just saying cause a Facebook user is saying, what do you do if you can't go to church due to medical issues?

Okay. So I wanna give the caveat and I thank you. For folks, if you go to apologeticslive .com, there is a link. They're showing you how to get Facebook to allow us to see your name. So I don't call you Facebook user, but there are areas where we are not forsaking the assembly.

And this is the real issue that I think when people do church online, really what they're doing is they're forsaking the assembling together and they want it to just sound spiritual. But the reality is that, and he says his name is Roger.

So Roger, I think if you have medical issues and you cannot make it to church, that's a difference. And that's the reason many churches do live streams. But when you're part of a church, I mean, I know as a pastor, if I have people and I've had this in the past, people who are sick or people who cannot make it to church because of medical conditions, I go visit them or other members of the leadership will go visit them because we still want them part of the church.

So I've done this in the past where we've gone to people's house with a number of people so that that person can have fellowship. We've tried to do where one person had a medical condition, we would do a Bible study at that person's house.

Why? So that they had the regular fellowship with the saints. So I think that that's on the church to try to find ways to help in those cases. So hope that helps you, Roger. So Edison, what do you got for us tonight?

Okay, yeah, actually I have, yeah, by the way, thank you. If you guys heard about the storm here, we were affected. That's why I was not able to, there was a good topic about Calvinism being a cult and Matt Slick was there.

I wasn't able to join because of the problem with the internet here and electricity because of the typhoon. But I may have a question if it's okay. Sure. I have, let me just get my...

Okay, he walked off screen. Yes, this is the thing, it's bad for audio podcasts when you have no one talking. So while he's going to get his Bible, he's got his Bible now. I'll give commentary. I could be a play-by-play commentary.

He's sitting in his seat. He just got up from his seat. I'm sorry. So I'm having a hard time explaining a verse to one of my anti-reform friends. There's a verse in Jeremiah chapter 19, verse five, Jeremiah 19, verse five.

And I believe there's a parallel of the same book, Jeremiah 32, verse 35. Now, I'm just interested in what are your thoughts on this? Because there's a phrase there that says, the sin that they're doing, which is making an abomination unto the Lord, casting their sons into the fire.

And it says here that it never entered in my mind. How does this relates to the sovereignty of God and his eternal decree?

Okay. Well, let's first read the passage. I'm gonna read verse five, so we see what you're referring to. Then I'm gonna back up to verse one. So we have, oh, that nasty C word, context. That's something, as you know, R .A. Fuentes had a problem with.

He didn't like context. That's the killer of his belief system there, right? So verse five just says this, and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded nor spoke of, nor did it ever enter my mind.

Okay, so that's the phrase there that I guess they're focused on. So let's back up to verse one because context does help. It's amazing. Most of the things I can resolve, I just resolve by reading context.

Maybe this is, we'll see. Thus says the Lord, go and buy a potter's earthenware jar and take some of the elders of the people and some of the senior priests, then go out to the valley of Behinnom, which is by the entrance of the Pottharge gate and proclaim there the words that I tell you and say, hear the word of the Lord, O kings of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, behold, I am about to bring a calamity upon this place at which the ears of everyone that hears of it will tingle because they have forsaken me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods that neither they nor their forefathers, nor the kings of Judah had ever known.

And because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent and have built the high places of Beal to burn their sons in the fire of the burnt offerings to Beal, a thing which I never commanded, nor spoke of, nor did it ever enter my mind.

Now, let's look at what the word mind in the New American Standard actually means. It has the idea, it's used almost 600 times in the Hebrew. It is a word to mean heart or one's inward self, an inclination, a disposition, a determination, courage, will, intention, a consideration or reason.

So if they're trying to say that the word mind means thinking, like he didn't know this, that wouldn't be the proper word, I think, to use here. It has, as I went through that, you see that overwhelming actually, at least in the New American Standard, 434 times out of the 593.

It's the word heart or hearts. And that's more the idea of it. It's the word of this inward determination or inclination. Someone here, Facebook user is saying, sounds like a Leighton Flowers post for one of his followers.

Yes, it does. So I would say with the first passage, the context helps us to realize that he's saying, this is something he never planned for the nation of Israel. They're doing these things. He's saying he never commanded it.

He never spoke of it. He never even was inclined of it. And never even entered his reason or inclination or his inward being. All right, so there's another use of it. You said in Jeremiah 32, 35. Let's read that and then we'll read some context.

They built the high places of Beal that are in the Valley of Behenim to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire of Malach, which I had not commanded them, nor had it entered my mind that they should do this abomination to Judah to sin.

Now, I will mention that this is again, the same exact word that we have in the other. So it is again, the idea of heart. As we look at some of the context, let's see where's a good place to back up to because we don't wanna read the whole chapter.

Let me just back up and it looks like verse 33. It says, they had turned their backs to me and not their face, though I taught them teaching again and again, they would not listen and receive instruction.

But they put their detestable things in the house, which is called by my name to defile it. They built their high places to Beal and that are in the Valley of Behenim to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire of Malach, which I had not commanded them, nor had it entered my mind that they should do this abomination to cause Judah to sin.

So I think in both cases, I think we have a similar thing. I think that we have here is a case where it's his inward reason, his inward thinking. So I don't think that this is the same as if, and I'm taking for granted cause I don't know what your friend is saying.

If he's saying that God doesn't know something, that's not what this is saying.

Yeah, yeah. He used that verse to attack the eternal decree. And I told him, I've seen the dictionary, it does says heart inclination. So I told him that if you use that verse literally in our, you know, there's a problem with low hermeneutics because there's no gap bridging.

If you try to interpret mine, like we think mine today, that's dangerous because that's not only attacking the sovereignty, it's also attacking the omniscience of God, which is generally the teaching that is accepted by all Christianity.

Yeah.

And the thing is, is that what you wanna do, right? So first thing I did is look at the context. Now the context wasn't what actually helped us in this, but it was the meaning of words. And this is actually the thing that we realize when we're translating something.

And I know you speak two languages, so you understand this. I barely speak English, so it's, you know, but this is the reality when you're dealing with translation of a language. When we're translating, words don't come out the same.

For example, if I was to speak in Cantonese and I wanna say that I'm happy, okay? Now we understand what happy means, right? We're feeling good, things are, our circumstances seem to be, put us in a good mood.

But the word in Cantonese would literally be translated, the word for happy would literally be translated as open heart. Now, if I was to translate that literally, you would know, like if I say I'm so open heart, you would not really understand what I'm saying, would it?

But if you understand the meaning of what it means to be open hearted, that you're, everything's, your heart is out in the open for everyone to see, that it's that kind of feeling, then you understand the meaning of what it is in Cantonese.

And that's one of the things you end up seeing is that when we translate to a different language, we have to deal with the fact that words do end up changing or needing to be changed in other languages because they just don't translate well sometimes, if you're gonna translate literally.

Yeah, just like the word know in the Bible, it's not just, you know, theoretical knowledge, there's also intimate knowing in the Bible. So it can mean differently. And that's what I was trying to tell him.

Well, we got, we were able to dismiss it because I told him, if you use the word mind in a single meaning, you're attacking not only the sovereignty of God, but also his omniscient, because that means that he'd never know.

And so he was a little bit pause and he said, yeah.

Well, I mean, words have multiple meanings, at least in English. We have plenty of words who, when we look at those words, you know, we would have, you know, like the word hear. Does it mean, hey, I can hear you?

Or does it mean that you're right here? It depends on context. And looking at the context, you know, if he's gonna try and take that word to force it in to say, God doesn't know something, you know, then that becomes a problem.

Now here's, KT is putting this up. This is the Legacy Standard Bible. Translates Jeremiah 32, 35 as, nor had it come upon my heart. And so this is the advantage of newer translations where we understand things better.

I just wish the Legacy Standard version would have translated the word tongues in the way that we understand it today, which would be languages. And that would ease a lot of issues there. Humble Clay says the word too.

You have T-O-T-T-T-O-O and T-W-O, right? Different meanings. Actually, I should try it one day, but there's a fun video of a person and they put like, it's, I forget what it was. It was like, they keep the T-W.

It's like, what is, you know, pronounce this. And it's like, K-W-O and then, you know, C-W-O. All these with a W-O. And then it's like, pronounce this one and it's T-W-O. And they go, two. They mispronounce it, not really.

Cause they don't see it. They just hear it. Fun thing to do. So does that answer your question? Do you have any others for us? Yeah. Okay. I will put you backstage. Now I see someone that says he's Reverend DJ, but there's two issues I have.

One, I can see who he is. And so I'm right. He's not a reverend, which means that, you know, he's not someone that we should definitely review. I mean, I don't even know if I want to put him on camera cause it doesn't look like he's even dressed appropriately.

He's like just in a T-shirt, nothing on his head. I mean, oh, and he thinks he's big and strong there. Do you see that? He's flexing his muscles. This is none other than Mr. Donnie Jacks. Donald, how are you tonight?

I love it when he's muted folks. That is actually, if you don't know, that's the best time to talk to Donnie is when he's muted because then you don't actually have to hear him. Now, the fun part is, is some of us are watching him try to figure out how to unmute.

He is trying to show off a certain book there. And if he unmutes, we could find out what it is, but he's not doing that. I guess he just wants to show off the What Do We Believe book that, I don't know if he got that recently or maybe he read it recently, but he's not here to ask a question, I guess.

So you just got to unmute, Donnie. He said, oops. See, it's the advantage of reading lips. I figured you knew. No, no, I was actually saying that you needed to unmute.

I'm just trying to be like you and have your coat.

Oh, you're just trying to put up like I have the books here. Yeah, like you always do. There you go, yeah. Now you got to hold up two to do it. You got to get my other book and hold it up the whole time.

So you have any questions for us tonight? No, not really. Just came in. Yeah, I just came in and bugged you. Folks, these are the kind of friends I have. They just want to bug me. Search and rescue from Eddie Roman.

There you go. Eddie Roman of Romans Road podcast. One of the other podcasts at the Christian Podcast Community. If you want to check all of our podcasts out, just go to christianpodcastcommunity .org.

Captain Black Eagle says, nice jammies there. Thank you, thank you. In fact, why don't we just let Captain Eagle, there you go, Captain Black Eagle, welcome. Thank you. Oh, you got to unmute yourself.

I got black background music going on.

Yeah, you got to mute the show while you're talking. He's Air Force. Yeah, well, okay, I'm gonna mute you until you turn your show. You got to mute the YouTube so we don't get the echo. And you can let me know in the private chat when you've done that.

And then, so, and then I'll unmute you. Actually, I don't know if I can unmute you. I think I can once it's because I muted you. So just, if you can, just take the, where you're watching on YouTube and just turn that off or pause it, mute it, whatever.

And then that way we don't get an echo. Let's see if he's, you have that muted there? Captain Black Eagle, if I'm trying to remember your first name, and I can't right now. Are you there with us? Okay, all right, I will just, I got him unmuting his, he said, okay, you said muted.

All right, I unmute you. You still got some background music going? He's having a party. Yeah, no, you still got the show playing.

Yeah, it's Jungle Loves, Steve Miller, wife's listening to it.

Oh, okay, yeah, but I still hear, I still hear an echo, like a delay. So you probably still have the YouTube channel playing. So what questions do you have for us? That could be in my head. Do you have any questions for us?

I don't have any. You don't have any? You just wanted to mention to Donnie what a nice, what nice jammies he has? Okay. Those jammies look nice. I have a pair just like them. Okay, you're waiting until we respond on YouTube.

All right, so I'm gonna, I'll mute you while I say this. So you gotta pause the YouTube channel, just be in the StreamYard. So you can either mute the YouTube channel and then come back to StreamYard.

But you're, I know you're waiting till I actually ask the questions on, you know, on YouTube. And so you don't wanna do that because then there's gonna be this echo where we get to hear, and we don't, definitely don't wanna hear my voice twice.

So I'm gonna unmute you again and we'll see if we gotta figure it out. Then there's gonna be this echo where we get to hear. Nope, we don't have it figured out, okay. Unmute you again, we'll see if we got it.

All right, I'll just put you backstage until you figure it out. So, Donald, how are you tonight? You don't have any questions? You usually have tons of questions for me. Just dumb ones, usually. I didn't rate them.

All right, so while you're here, so here's what we got. Some other things that I had, wanted to share with you guys. This week, I was able to participate in the Think podcast. They had a 12 days of Christmas, 12-day challenge.

And on that 12-day challenge, each day they were offering a different argument that people had. I got to deal with two of the 12. Has the Bible been corrupted? So we dealt with textual Christmas. I think that was day five.

If you go to Think podcast, it was day five. Has the Bible been corrupted? And then I got to do day number 11. And day number 11 was, does the Bible contain contradictions? So I got to do those two, but I listened to all 12, and there were some good ones.

And Joel Sedekes, who is the host of that podcast, had a really interesting one that got me thinking that I thought, hey, it'd be fun for us here to discuss is the idea of, is Christianity a crutch? And this is not an argument we hear as much anymore, but a lot of people will use that argument that Christianity is a crutch.

And I thought what would be helpful for us on Apologetics Live is to go through, how do we determine how to answer an argument? Because what we want to do on the show is help people like Donald over here to make better arguments.

So when he gets challenged, he has an answer, right, Donnie? Yeah, yes, yes. Well, good answer, a good answer. All right, so here's the thing I started to think about, and this is what Joel had broken down.

And he had some good examples. I had some different examples that I thought of as he was explaining it. But when you ask the question of, is Christianity just a crutch, or someone makes the accusation that Christianity is a crutch, you first ask the question, what is a crutch?

A crutch is something to assist you in walking. It's not something needed, it's an assistant. It's something that, with it, it helps you to walk. It helps you to, you know, you break a foot, you may not be able to walk.

Maybe you'd have to hop around and things like that. But using a crutch helps you, okay? Now, there's a difference between that and a need. The difference would be if somebody is on insulin, for example, or some other medicine that's without the medicine, they die.

Well, that's not an assistant, is it? You see, that's not something to assist them. That is something that, you know, basically is needed. And so now you have a difference. Is Christianity something that assists us, or is it something that is needed?

Maybe, you know, for Edison and the discussion earlier and some of his anti-Calvinistic friends, they may say Christianity is a crutch because we could believe on God and we needed God to do some things, but ultimately it was our choice.

Now, they would still say that they need God to be right with him. And this is the difference. Christianity is not like other religions. Other religions, you could say, are like a crutch because they help you, they assist you in living morally.

They don't actually, they're not necessarily necessary for entrance into heaven or for a right state with God. So that's the difference. I thought interesting that the way Joel laid that out. Now, he used some different examples, but I was thinking of things more like something that is a requirement, something you can't live without, compared to something that assists you.

But that's the argument that ends up being, that we have to look at. You know, another one of the ones he did, I think this was day 12, that I thought was interesting, is he dealt with the argument of, are all religions the same?

And that becomes an interesting one. Well, let me actually ask Johnny, any thoughts you have on the fact that Christianity is a crutch?

Anything you want to add to that? I would just go ahead and agree with him. And this is why Donnie's here to learn. Well, I mean, it would shut down the argument. He wouldn't have nothing to say. Oh yeah, it's a crutch.

And that'd be the end of it. I mean, where is he going to go with it? You agreed with him. And it is, you know, a crutch too. Well, is it a crutch? But you're going deeper with it, and I understand that.

But they don't understand that. Well, Steven, that's where we take the explanation, right? Because once you explain it, that takes it away. Because what they're saying is, you really don't need Christianity.

It just helps you in life. And that's what they mean by it. It assists you in living the way every other religion is. But see, this is not about a better life now. Someone tell Joel Osteen, he's got it wrong.

Okay, this is not your best life now unless you have hell to look forward to, okay? This is the life we live through to get to our eternal state. And so you don't need assistance to get to the external state through Christianity.

It's a necessary component. And so you can't get to an eternal life without having Christianity, okay? The gospel, right? Ted here is saying, God bless you, brothers, for your faithful ministry from Sydney, Australia.

You know, I've always wanted to go to Australia there, Ted. You know, I actually had a church that was trying to work on that before this thing called, what's it called? COVID, yeah, a fake pandemic that shut everything down.

So now I don't know if I'll ever be able to go and see, I still want to. You know, I wonder if, you know, when God creates a new heavens and new earth, I wonder if we will get to see some of the places we didn't get to see on the old earth, I don't know.

Strange things to think about, but, you know. So one of the things that Joel also addressed is are all religions the same? Now, I wanted to dig in deeper on this one because I think there's a lot there and I think there's some good ways to answer this.

But I see, let's see, what did Joel, where is it now? Drew had a comment, here it is, I need to see. Drew says, to the atheist holding to evolution, wouldn't modern science be a crutch, assistance to explain the universe while suppressing the truth of God in unrighteousness?

That's an excellent point there, Joel, or Drew, and that's a good reason why you should get in here. Okay. Okay. Then we can promote the Matter of Theology podcast yet again, which, by the way, is a member of the Christian Podcast Community.

Just go to christianpodcastcommunity .org. All right. So as we think about this one with all religions being the same, I have a very different way of looking at it. And if you get my book, What Do They Believe, the second edition, now, what do they believe, the blue one?