The Babylon Bee Asks Us Why We're Reformed | Theocast Clips

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The guys from the Babylon Bee Podcast ask Jon and Justin why they hold to Reformed Theology. Jon describes the Redemptive Historical Framework of the Bible and Justin doubles down on how that influences ideas within Covenant Theology.

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I've got a question loaded up. All right. So Jarrett here has not yet invited
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John Calvin into his heart. Now, it's my sneaking suspicion because I...
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But is John Calvin standing at the door knocking? That's what I want to know. He's been knocking for like 30 years.
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So I'm an even more lost case because I'm a Reformed Baptist dispensationalist.
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Yeah, we'll pray for you, brother. We'll pray for me. So it's my sneaking suspicion that Dan, our podcast interviewer, considers
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Jarrett and I to be his mission field for going full Reformed. Oh, Dan. I'm not even sure he thinks we're
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Christian. We're not Reformed enough. We're not even Covenantal. So we want to give you guys an opportunity.
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What's your 30 -second elevator pitch for going full capital R Reformed? Oh, well, we're not even capital
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R Reformed, but... I mean, depending on who you talk to. I mean, one of your former guests would not consider us to be. Anyways, to answer his question,
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I'll let you go first. No, you go first, John. I want to defer to you, and then I'll just come in from the top turnbuckle if need be. Well, I think the reason...
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So I grew up an Independent Fundamental Baptist, hardcore dispensationalist, graduated from the Master's Seminary, so very familiar with dispensationalism my entire life.
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And I think what really drew me over was understanding the overarching theme and purpose of the
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Bible. And so you have this glorious creation in the beginning, and then obviously Adam destroys it, and then the whole world is in disarray, and you don't even really get to go one sentence before God swoops in and says, okay, here's the plan of redemption.
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And so the whole story of the Bible is the unfolding plan of redemption based upon God's sovereign promises that will not fail.
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That's what won me over was that this was not in man's hands, because when it was, it completely failed.
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It's in God's hands. And every time man gets involved, God lets it like completely unravel and steps back and he goes, you're unfaithful,
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I'm faithful. And this is why we ended up getting Christ, who comes from the line of Judah, from the line of David.
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And so, yeah, I think what's so refreshing about Reformed theology, and specifically Covenant theology, is that it really succinctly puts the
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Bible in one glorious picture. And when you read it, you never felt lost, because you're like, well, we're progressing along this glorious story of God restoring what
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Adam destroyed. This is why Jesus is called the second Adam. When even the promise of a Redeemer in Genesis 3 .15,
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effectively what you have in the rest of the entire Bible from there to the end of Revelation 22, is the unfolding of the accomplishment of that promise.
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And a Reformed covenantal perspective on the Scripture highlights that in a way that I think is pretty glorious and gives us a lot of assurance, a lot of peace, helps us to see how the whole
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Scripture really is a testimony about Christ. Jesus meant what he said. When he says that if you believe
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Moses, you'd believe me, because Moses wrote about me, Covenant theology helps us to see how that's especially true.
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When he says, too, that you search the Scriptures, thinking that in them you find eternal life, but it is they that bear witness about me.
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It's true. That from the jump, Christ was the plan. And a Reformed covenantal perspective,