1 Peter 4:12-19 Insulted and Unashamed

Welcome to the podcast of Recast Church in Madawan, Michigan. This is a message from Pastor Don Filsek from the series Ready for the Storm on 1st Peter. If you'd like more information on Recast Church, please visit us on the web at www .recastchurch .com.

Here's Pastor Don.

Good morning, welcome to Recast Church. Don Filsek, I'm the lead pastor here, and I'm glad that you chose to slide on in. Hopefully there were no accidents and you took your time. One of the things that I feel kind of compelled to say is that we do not, generally speaking, cancel church on Sunday mornings when there's bad weather.

What we do is ask that you please use discretion. And even if you work in an area of ministry, we don't want anybody driving unsafely out there to get in to teach a class or to make coffee or anything like that.

So if you just by your own knowledge of your own driving skills kind of say or your own vehicle, say, I don't think I can make it in, then please just contact me and you can let me know or you can contact,.

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I guess the best way is probably just to try to contact me and let me know that you're not able to make it for your assignment and then we can go from there. So, but we don't, we don't generally cancel and obviously you guys know that now because here you are.

So, I hope that that God rewards your,.

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Your presence here with a challenge from his word.

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Certainly the truth this morning that one of the things that we gather together to do, I mean the primary reason we gather together is to grow in our faith and that, I say this, I've said this multiple times, that growing in faith looks like taking in God's Word, believing that it's true and then going out in our lives and, and living it.

So it is our conviction that the Word of God is central to the process of faith, that we read it, we believe that he indeed has spoken these things to us and that it is indeed true, that it's worth our lives basing, basing our lives on that.

And then we go out and we live it throughout the week. So that's our goal here this morning. Be sure to fill out the connection card that you received when you walked in. You can turn that in in the black box that's over here underneath on the table by the clock there.

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And we do have need for a couple of more individuals. We are not necessarily looking for skilled positions. It's not somebody who has to know a lot of technical stuff. It's kind of plugging in cords and cables and things like that.

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See what I did. Couple of you got it. But also, lastly, there is a meeting right after the service for those that are interested in dedicating your children. That's going to be coming up on February 15th.

We're going to have a service here on Sunday morning just to really focus in on that. We're going to just meet, go out the door and towards this end of the hallway at the end of this service. So if you're interested, maybe you've already communicated that with me.

I'd still like you to show up for that meeting. And maybe you haven't talked with me previously, but you're kind of saying, yeah, I want to be part of that. So I'm coming just that's more informational than anything.

So come and check that out. All right, with all the announcements out of the way, if you if you've been around for this series in 1st Peter, then you know that a major purpose of the letter, the reason that Peter took his pen in his hand and wrote this was in part to prepare the people of God for suffering.

That's why this really kind of scary sermon graphic, Ready for the Storm, this idea that that there is a storm indeed out there and it's a reality and Peter doesn't sugarcoat that. He doesn't candy coat the Christian life, but says there is suffering.

Now in the day of the original author, when he was writing this stuff, they were on the edge of literal persecution, physical persecution. It was coming on the, they were they were wrapping up kind of a really significant Jewish persecution where the Jews were killing Christians.

What they didn't realize is that they were right in the middle of a little bit of a lull between the Jews. Many of them had been exiled and fled to Rome and what they didn't realize is that the hammer of Rome was going to come down on them pretty quick.

And so they were right on the edge of a huge Roman, from the emperor down kind of persecution and many Christians that read this letter that Peter wrote would within a decade or so lose their very lives.

So they were they were reading these things, hearing these things and then boom the persecution fell. Now in our day and age, it seems very unlikely that any of us will face first physical persecution or physical suffering due to our faith.

And so we could read first Peter and go, well, that's for someone else. That's something that they need to hear over in China I've mentioned or in the Middle East or in North Africa or some other place.

But Peter in our text this morning does us a favor and brings it a little closer to home for us. He brings it right where we live in the realm of suffering for Christ. He includes the words insult and shame in the process of persecution.

Being killed for our faith here in America, not very likely. Being imprisoned for our faith in America, not yet. Being insulted for our faith in America, getting a little warmer, a little bit closer. Feeling a sense of shame at the name of Jesus in public.

Think about that. It's likely something that everyone in this room who is a believer and believes that Jesus Christ died on the cross for you and believes that he is the only hope that you have for the thing that matters most.

And I would guess that the majority of us have at some point in our lives felt a sense of shame at the mention of Jesus in some kind of a public forum or in some way with friends or in a sense of maybe even having said it and then finding that shame was heaped on you for it.

And so as we dive back into the text of first Peter here this morning, please remember that as dark and negative as some of the things that first that Peter says in first Peter can get, remember that Peter is seeking to set forward hope in the midst of the real sufferings of real life people, real life followers of Jesus Christ.

Again, I love it that Peter doesn't candy coat the Christian life. He doesn't hold out for us some kind of a health, wealth, or prosperity oriented life as if to say that if you are with Jesus Christ, once you become a Christian, everything's gonna go well for you.

If you just have enough faith, you'll have all the health that you need. If you just have enough faith, then you will be wealthy. If you just have enough faith, then everybody in your workplace is gonna love you and is gonna say, oh man, he's great or man, she is awesome.

And you're not gonna face any shame. You'll face no persecution, no scorn because Jesus loves you and everything's gonna be just fine. He says, he says we will suffer and he's gonna suggest something radical in the midst of this suffering in this text this week.

He says we're gonna suffer and then he goes on to say and we should rejoice in the midst of that very suffering. So let's open our Bibles to first Peter chapter 4 verses 12 through 19. First Peter 4, 12 through 19, and if you don't have a Bible on your lap, but you could just raise your hand and one of these guys will bring you one.

We're not trying to call you out. Oh, look, they didn't bring a Bible. It's just we do want everybody to have a copy of the Word of God on their lap, on your lap so that you can follow along. First Peter 4, 12 through the end of the chapter, which is verse 19.

This is God's Word for us this morning, Recast Church.

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Do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you. As though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice in so far as you share Christ's sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.

If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed because the spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, or an evildoer, as a meddler. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name.

For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God. And if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And if the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?

Therefore, let those who suffer according to God's will entrust their souls to a faithful creator,.

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Let's pray. Father, I rejoice in.

The opportunity to gather together as your people on this snowy Sunday morning. Father, I know that there are many who couldn't be with us this morning just because of the weather and the roads. And I thank you for keeping us safe on the way here.

Father, I pray that you would return us to our home safely as well. But during this time that we would we would meet with you, Father, there would be a sense of your presence here among us as we as we worship and sing these songs.

Father, that would be so much more than just an exercise of our voices, but it would be an exercise of genuine worship and recognition that you are worthy, you are glorious, you are majestic, you are high, you are to be exalted above all things in our lives, above all football games, above all sports, above all things that might grab our attention.

Father, I thank you for the the many different aspects of life that you have given to us in which to worship you. So, Father, I pray that you would be glorified in the hearing of your word, the believing of your word, the singing of these songs, even in the fellowship and the rejoicing that happens later today, and the excitement and enthusiasm around a sporting event that, Father, we look forward to and simultaneously recognize it's a gift from you.

Father, I pray that you would be honored and glorified throughout this day and specifically in our gathering this morning in Jesus' name. Amen. Thanks a lot to the band for leading us in worship. I'm grateful for the time and energy that they put in every week and just thankful for the skill that they've given.

If I had to stand up here and lead you guys in worship, you probably wouldn't last very long. So I'm really glad for these guys. Make sure you keep your Bibles open to 1 Peter chapter 4 verses 12 through 19 as we as we dive in and we are gonna walk through this text and I want you to be able to see that that's kind of the outline of what I'm going through so that you can you can see it.

Remember that whatever it takes to kind of keep comfortable if you need to get up and get more coffee, juice, donuts, just like Pete is over here. I mean, not to call you out or anything, but feel free to get up at any time.

Like I said, stretch out in the back, use the restrooms down here at the center of the hallway. Whatever it takes to keep you focused on God's Word. As we walk through these books of the Bible, I think sometimes it's beneficial and helpful to take a pause and remember who wrote it.

Like who is this author? And I've mentioned a couple of times, we've taken a little pause here or there to talk about Peter and who he is and the way he rolls and how we know him from the Gospels. Sometimes we disconnect different parts of Scripture.

We don't see the big picture and so we're not remembering that this is the same guy from that was one of the twelve disciples that followed Jesus all around during his three years of ministry. So the fact of the matter is we know very little about the Apostle Peter prior to his encounter with Jesus Christ on the shore of Galilee.

He was, I guess we can surmise some things, there's some things that we know certainly from after he met Jesus that we can kind of see some of his personality shine through. But I don't think it's a stretch to say he was an outdoorsman kind of guy, okay?

With all that that entailed in the first century, he spent much of his time in the outdoors out in nature. He was a fisherman by trade. I would guess that if you shook his hand it would feel a bit like sandpaper.

A bit of a rough guy. I picture a man with deep wrinkles on thick skin. I imagine a beard that would make the Robertson boys jealous. Okay, I don't know why. I mean that's just the image that I have of this outdoorsman kind of guy, fisherman, rough-and-tumble kind of guy trying to eke out a living on the shores of Galilee.

He doesn't appear to have been a shy person when it came to his opinions and thoughts. He would share them readily in a group and often be the first to speak. Occasionally even putting his own foot in his mouth.

He had what we could call foot-in-mouth syndrome. So he would say exactly what he was thinking very quick to weigh in on subjects and say it quickly. And so this is the guy who when we come to verse 12 tenderly addresses his readers in verse 12 with the word.

Beloved.

Says you're loved. I love you. I care for you. We get one word of pause out of Peter. One word demonstrating his love and compassionate concern for his audience before he dives headlong into a really tough subject.

Like a dad who sits down with his son and says I love you son, but any of you ever have a conversation like that with your dad? I love you. I love you son, but and then it's like what comes next? You're kind of like not expecting that to necessarily be pleasant what comes after that statement.

It's like well, I care about you. I care about you. That's good, but there's something I need to say to you. Peter says in essence here at the start of this text this morning. I loves you guys, but don't be surprised that the flames are licking at your heels.

It's obvious that these elect exiles, he's actually writing to these literal pockets of Christians all throughout Asia Minor, have experienced already some degree of fiery trials. They've already been engaged to some degree within this realm of suffering and trials and difficulties that they've had to face in their lives.

They're already identified as exiles. The text already said that's who he's writing to and so in the process of writing to exiles you recognize a person doesn't become an exile by choice. I don't know if you've ever identified that exile is something that happens to you.

You're kicked out. It's not something that you chose. It's not like vacation. You're not exiled to Florida, although that might, some of you are like could I, I'd sign up for that, right? But uh exile is something that you're forced to do.

You didn't want to go. You didn't want to leave and these people have physically had to relocate or been relocated out of force. Right away in verse 12 Peter is addressing what could very well apply to many of us.

We may be tempted to be surprised when we are attacked or insulted or persecuted and Peter wants to correct in us any expectation that everything is going to just continue to run smoothly in your life.

He wants to correct that. Now Peter is not speaking as some kind of a prophet of doom. You know, oh, it's all gonna be doom and gloom and everything's gonna be horrible. So just brace yourself because it's all gonna be bad and storm clouds are brewing and it's gonna be terrifying and that's not his point.

It's not to be discouraging. But also on the other extreme, he's not just kind of like like moralizing or just giving like a good proverbial statement. You know into every life a little rain is gonna fall.

I mean, we just know that things won't always be up. Sometimes there's gonna be dark days. Sometimes there's gonna be and he's not he's not like just fluffing this thing for us. He's not all the way over here just doom and gloom and everything's horrible, but equally he's not over here just saying well, you know, just don't worry about it.

Don't stress. You know, there's not gonna be any problems. It's it's I mean there's gonna be problems, but they're not that big of a deal. What he's doing in this text is he's attempting to prepare our hearts for trials and tests that will indeed come to us.

He's identifying that they will come to your life. It's going to happen and we ought not to think it's strange. We ought not be surprised when trials come into our lives.

Shouldn't be surprised by that.

The fact is Peter is flat-out disagreeing with some of the most successful preachers in the world in this text this morning. You can tune in right now and hear preachers who will tell you that you have bad things happen because you have a negative outlook.

If you just thought more positively you wouldn't have bad things happen in your life, but you're you kind of self-fulfill these things. So as long as you expect bad things to happen then bad things will happen to you.

Have you ever heard that preaching? If you just believe, if you just name it and claim it, right? That kind of preaching, that kind of teaching. They'll tell you that if you just name your blessing, name that new car, name that promotion, name that relationship you're looking for, name that healing over your rift in your family,.

And it'll be yours.

You heard that kind of preaching? It's becoming more and more prevalent in our culture. And the most successful largest church in America today has that message to give to you. Any questions why it might be successful?

How many of you like the notion, I mean really just being honest, how many of you like the notion of an easy life, a good life, a fun life? One where everything goes your way? Isn't that what we're kind of driving for every time we argue with our spouse, every time we disagree with somebody, every time we, you know, push back against our boss or whatever it might be?

Isn't that what we're really identifying is, boy, if you just did things my way, my life would be a whole lot easier. So it's latent in us. It has to be washed out. We have to let the Word of God have its way in our hearts to transform us from what is natural to us.

And that's us.

What is natural to us? My way. Yeah, your way. Whatever. You know what I mean.

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Yeah, right there. That's, that's it. My way, right? Peter disagrees with this concept. Says the exact opposite in our text. Says you ought not to be surprised when you suffer. You ought not to be surprised when things don't go your way.

You ought not to be surprised when things that attack your health happen in your life. Don't think of trials and tests as rare or strange. And then Peter goes on to say something radical. Says rather than think it's strange, look at it as an opportunity to rejoice.

Rejoice when you are pressed by fiery trials. Why? Because we have an opportunity to share in the sufferings of our Lord and Savior and King, Jesus Christ, who suffered for us. This call to rejoicing is a supernatural calling.

None of us in this room are equal to the task that's being laid out for us in this text. Nothing about suffering lends itself to natural joy, right? Our rejoicing and gladness, according to verse 13, by the way, is not placed in the trial as if to say, yippee, I get to suffer.

It's not placed in the hardship, but we will rejoice and be glad when the glory of Jesus is revealed because we have an opportunity to suffer along with him. Just like he did. So let me illustrate this.

Again, knowing our author has an impact on this text. Because Peter is not merely preaching. This is a tough message to preach, but he actually lived it. Peter, we have a specific example in Acts chapter 5, when Peter was younger, he had a chance to live this out.

The Apostles were in Jerusalem preaching and proclaiming the resurrection of Jesus Christ. And the high priest didn't like that message that they were proclaiming, and so he had all of the Apostles arrested.

In Acts 5, all of the Apostles were arrested. Peter was one of them. And then we come to the sentencing in verse 40, and from, and I'm gonna quote Acts 5 40 says, and when they had called in, that's the the counsel who is trying the Apostles, and when they had called in the Apostles, they beat them and charged them not to speak in the name of Jesus.

And then they let them go. Then they, the Apostles, left the presence of the council. Are you ready for it? Some of you know what's coming. Rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer, dishonor, for the name.

Counted worthy to suffer, counted worthy to be beaten for the cause of Jesus Christ. Peter lived out what he is telling us. He lived out this level of supernatural calling. Rejoicing. Thank you. Thank you, God, that I had an opportunity to suffer for your name.

Thank you. How many of you think, just, just a show of hands, how many of you think that is supernatural, that that's not normal? That's not natural. That's not what you expect to read in that text. You expect them to run off along to their homes with their tail tucked between their legs.

But they didn't run off.

Goes on, and every day in the temple, from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus. Rejoicing that they had an opportunity to suffer for Christ. So here's a historical account of this passage being put into practice by Peter himself, the author.

He was there. He was arrested. He was in prison for the cause of Christ. He was beaten, and when he was released, he rejoiced and praised God, that he could suffer for Jesus' name. He saw it as a privilege to suffer for the one who had suffered so much for him.

As supernatural as this calling is, it is possible only when we understand the great love that Jesus has toward us, and how great and glorious the future is that he holds out for us. Just as Josh mentioned, it struck me just how close it was to what I was thinking when I wrote this sermon, this concept that eternity is long, and life is short.

These are momentary and light sufferings. Paul, who was beaten, shipwrecked, abused, left for dead, stoned. All of this stuff, and he's called his experience light and momentary affliction. Last time, I'm guessing that nobody, have any of you ever been, like, had rocks thrown at you because of your faith?

And he calls this light momentary affliction, just kind of small stuff. Small stuff in the light of this eternal weight of glory that is held out for us. Peter isn't even really talking about being imprisoned or beaten for our faith, though.

Look at verse 14. If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed. Jesus basically said the same thing in Matthew 5 11. If you're taking notes, you can jot that down in the midst of the Beatitudes, one of my favorite sections of Scripture.

Jesus said this, Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. The blessing, however, is not some mere general giddiness. You know, yippee, I'm suffering.

How's your day going? You know, like, so, yeah, somebody, how's your day going? It's going great. You're never gonna believe it. Couldn't be better. My boss fired me because I brought a Bible to work.

I shared the gospel with my best friend, and they made fun of me in front of all my other friends, and someone else who saw a verse I posted on Facebook called me an ignorant bigot. Awesome day.

Glorious day.

Because it just, woohoo, you know, I'm skipping, skipping along just because I'm suffering. Peter indicates that when you are insulted, your blessing comes anyway. Because, because the reason for the rejoicing, because the Spirit of God, the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.

How can you experience insult as blessing? Because you are not acting in your own glory. You are not acting in your own spirit, but in the spirit of the glory of God himself that rests upon you. And that's how insult can be turned to rejoicing.

But there's a side note that Peter engages in verse 15, a side note on suffering. There's a type of suffering that he has told us about throughout the book that he wants to clarify. There is a, there is a suffering for a cause that is not, is not worthy.

If you're suffering for wrongdoing, there's no joy or blessing in that. If you've done wrong, and you're being punished for it, you should be punished for it, right? There should be a consequence to that, he says.

And Peter gives a pretty severe list of wrongs. Don't, don't suffer as a murderer, you guys. Don't suffer as a thief. Don't, don't suffer because you've been arrested, and now you're going to jail because you've been stealing from Walmart.

Don't, don't do that stuff.

He basically lists out these things, and it's a pretty, pretty dense list. Like, hopefully nobody in the room is struggling with stealing. Hopefully nobody in the room is struggling with murder. Right?

Like, I mean, I hope that's not real. But then he adds this one at the end that's kind of, kind of funny, and I think it's intentional. I think it might be something that they were struggling with at the time.

And, and have you ever like made a list that's like really grave and severe, and then tack one on at the end that's like not so severe, but it happens to be the one that your kids struggle with? Some of you know what I'm talking about.

You like kind of add that one in. You know, don't be a murderer. Don't be a thief. Don't hit your brother. You know? And he says meddling. Meddling. An interesting word. Something that you could actually be prosecuted for under Roman law, just getting in each other's business.

But it was against, it was like a literal, like, offense to interfere with, and some of the, some of the nuances of this word have to do with interfering with the, the religious practices of others. So it's likely that Christians could actually be accused of getting in the way of idolatry, or getting, like, physically, like, like, getting in the way of, like, processions of religion, or things like that, that were on their way to sacrifice to Saturn, or something like that.

And so they would actually, there could be the potential for them to literally come under Roman law by meddling, or getting involved, or interfering with family dynamics. There were a lot of Roman laws that centered around what you, about your involvement in the family.

And so, it's possible that that might be what he's talking about there. But he says, don't, don't, don't be rightly accused. Jesus said, you know, it's good when you're reviled, and insulted, and things like that, falsely, in my name.

But when it's true, then that's not, you're not blessed then. That's not a blessing. You getting what, you getting the exception there? By implication, we should experience shame when we suffer for doing wrong.

But Peter says, if we suffer as a Christian, we should not be ashamed, but glorify God through the name. Glorify God through the name of Jesus. If you're insulted, or made fun of for the cause of Christ, it may seem quite natural for you to feel, and experience a sense of shame, right?

It's possible.

How does this look in our daily lives? Maybe you kind of go, well, I'm not sure if I've ever experienced this. But I think maybe you have, to some degree. And if I, if I give you some illustrations, maybe that'll help a little bit.

This type of insult, insulting could be as simple as someone accusing you of sheltering your kids, because you won't let them watch certain TV shows. Or maybe it's even someone in your family. I've noticed that family members have a tendency to get involved in the raising of kids that are not their own.

Have you ever noticed that? Maybe the grandparents who want to tell the, the, their kids how to raise their kids. And, do you know what I'm saying? Or, or what about, well, you're just, you're just, you're sheltering them.

And it's, can, it can, and it can strike as an insult. It can, you can have a shame response to that, right? It can be shameful in you, kind of going like, yeah, I guess maybe I am. Maybe, maybe my kids are, maybe I'm destroying my kids.

Maybe, you know, and so there, there's a sense of shame that can well up. And all you're trying to do is, you're trying to honor God in the raising of your own children. And all of a sudden, the, the world wants to tell you, you're doing it wrong.

It could be a person at work, who calls you a prude behind your back, because you won't engage in inappropriate humor there. And so there's a rumor, and you've got a reputation at work, is, oh, don't, oh, yeah, no, there's whispers as you walk up to the water cooler, or as you enter the conversation, because everybody kind of gives a knowing glance.

Yeah, he's here. I guess we can't have fun now.

You know what I'm talking about?

Some of you experienced that very thing. It's an insult, and it's a shame response. And, I mean, I would, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some who are, and it would make sense that you're pulled into things that you don't even want to be pulled into, because you don't want to be that guy or that girl who is always destroying the conversation, ruining everybody's fun.

So it can be tough. I know that it can be tough to stand up for Christ in this world. It could be someone who calls you archaic for believing that the Bible is true, and they, and they have it out for you.

And whenever you talk about biblical truth, or you talk about things that are, are solid in Scripture, and they're like, well, why are you even going to this book? What does that have to do with anything?

And they look down their nose at you, and think you're ignorant, or that you're, you're just, you're just not smart. You're not scientific enough. You're not up-to-date, really? You're gonna take this book that was written 2 ,000 years ago over whatever?

These are realities that you will face if you're taking the call of Christ on your life seriously. There will be insults. There will be opportunities for you to feel shame. There will be opportunities for you to feel insult.

Just this past week, I reposted a video of a preacher that I often listen to. I love Matt Chandler. Haven't any of you ever heard of Matt Chandler? I didn't, maybe you've heard of, heard him from me, but if you get a chance to podcast the Village Church in Texas, I think the Village Church is the name of his podcast.

But whenever he's preaching, I mean, I love to hear him. He's, he brings the Word of God alive, and it talks a lot about cultural things. But I, I reposted this video, and he, it's him speaking on the issue of abortion.

I don't even know, I know that if I, if I post something on the issue of abortion, I ought to be open to some kind of controversy. Kind of, like, was I, was I asking for it? I, I reposted it. I thought that what he said was quite factual, not extremely controversial.

He wasn't trying to be controversial, but he was just trying to be direct. But I was engaged by a couple of friends who conveyed significant disagreement on my wall. Some of you may have seen that. But what I want to point out is that what was going on on my, on my wall was tame compared to what was going on in my message box.