May 5, 2020 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “With Liberty & Justice for All: Christian Politics Made Simple” (Part 4)

The Radio Program Opens With Proverbs 27:17 and the Goal of Mutual Edification

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That's in this book. Even though it's not a massive book a very reasonably length book to read and a reasonably short period of time and but there's a lot of material in here that we could still delve into and I hope we Get some good new information for you today that you may not have heard before or perhaps just to Bring new life into those things that might have been laying dormant in your mind and heart in regard to this subject.

My guest as I said is dr. Joe more craft and he is pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to honor chirping's iron radio dr. Moore craft.

Great. Well for the sake of our listeners, especially who did not Hear you during those other three interviews. We did and in fact, we've done more than that on our old show on the iron Sherpins iron radio show that was broadcast out of New York.

But for the sake of those who haven't heard you before tell our listeners about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia, especially Since this is a rather relatively new church plant Praise God and for any of you who want more information about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia The website is very easy to remember heritage Presbyterian church .com Heritage Presbyterian church .com and God willing we will remember to repeat that later on especially for the sake of those who tune in late.

Why the Book Was Written and the Civil Magistrate Under God

Well, dr. Moore craft. We have covered a lot of the subject matter in your book. Why don't you for the sake of our listeners who haven't? Heard you yet discuss this book. Just give a brief overview again on why you wrote it to begin with.

We are to manifest Submission to his lordship and one of those it almost 13 is. Part two the bulls will distinguish us from liberals and conservatives. Do it both. Originated with the state it would only be accountable to its accountable to its origin and that origin is God.

It may never may never bow to his law. It's involved in everything else of the civil magistrate. Minister I have no religious and that's the minister. What's the way from it? It is to make sure that all of its laws and all of its policies on the law God gave the civil magistrate the power of the sword.

Of the sword is symbolic of the power to wage war. When necessary the only wars the Bible gives involved in any kind of political wars and put on and women at risk because of such. Third power is the power to tax not just any kind of tax.

It's interesting in the Bible that all the various forms of it implies sovereignty. That is what you tax you have sovereignty over. Do you have ownership of and. And 300 years the federal government may not even own property unless it's for Post-office and military.

Wow. And as I mentioned in one of our previous interviews.

Libertarianism, Christian Liberty, and Border Control

Although you have been somewhat not overly or harshly but somewhat critical of Libertarianism and of course that is not a monolithic group. There's there's a wide spectrum of libertarians. Some of them are very evil who believe so much in Personal liberty that they forget about the liberty of unborn babies and believe women should be able to murder them.

And but of course there are Christian libertarians who are pro-life.

But.

Yes, who you? Campaigned for. At least you aggressively supported him publicly when he ran for president. About. I don't know was it 12 years ago.

A long time ago seems like now. Yeah.

But.

The you see you still seem to have some Empathy. You you have you seem to be in agreement with them. That last group that I mentioned the Christian Libertarians you seem to have more in agreement than disagreement.

I happen to be as I mentioned before. Leaning that way, although there are things that many of the most vociferous Libertarians in the media Believe in that I disagree with them on I believe that we should have a strong border control.

For instance not for people who want to leave and come and go as they please but for those who are trying to enter into the country and Many libertarians if not most. Exactly.

John Knox, the Scottish Covenanters, and the Reformed Presbyterian Tradition

John Knox was great and he shared many. The same was more in polite state than even the English Reformation made by Mecklenburg County where Charlotte is in North Carolina prior to the Declaration of Independence.

They found a great deal alike and so these people. Radical extreme thing you can ever read Mecklenburg bacteria and unfortunately that slogan is probably most well known for John Wilkes Booth.

Now a lot of what you said isn't the the covenant aspect. That the Scottish Covenanters and John Knox before them believed in so deeply. Isn't that something that is a key point of Teaching even in the modern-day Covenant or Presbyterians also known as the reformer the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America and also.

The.

Reformed Presbyterian Church that's in Europe.

Revolutionary Parliament at that time was it would. Be fixed. Figure out while some Christian schools and homeschools and a lot of them are just accredited by the same.

Secular humanist.

That's exactly correct. Yes, sir.

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And what people don't realize. One of the three forms of unity. Amen. In fact, we have to go to our.

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Because they're on similar topics we have tomorrow on our program Dr. David C Innis Who is a professor at the King's College in New York City? And he's going to be discussing his book Christ and the kingdoms of men foundations of political life.

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