February 3, 2021 Show with Justin Peters on “False Prophecies of 2020 & 2021” (Part 2)

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And I'm very excited to have back as a returning guest a very dear friend of mine, somebody whose ministry, I believe, is one of the most vital ministries of the 21st century and that is not hyperbole, it's not exaggeration or sinful flattery.

I truly believe this and I consider this guest today to be not only one of my favorite guests on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, but one of my favorite conference speakers and pastors luncheon speakers who I've invited here to Pennsylvania to participate in events associated with Iron Sharpens Iron Radio and I'm speaking of Justin Peters, who is an evangelist, conference speaker and founder of Justin Peters Ministries.

And Justin, for those of you who are unfamiliar with him, specializes, although this is not the exclusive area that Justin focuses on, it is a primary focus of his ministry and that is exposing the lies and heresies of the charlatans in the Word of Faith movement.

And today we are going to be continuing a conversation that we began a number of weeks ago and that is false prophecies of 2020 and 2021 and this is part two of that discussion. It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Justin Peters.

The pleasure is all mine, brother.

And we may be, oh, not maybe, we definitely are. I just got a text that we have been joined by Andrew Rappaport, who is my co-host today, my special co-host, founder and president of Striving for Eternity and welcome back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Andrew Rappaport.

I want to right away give our listeners our email address if they would like to join us on the air with a question for Justin on the Word of Faith movement on extra-biblical revelation or alleged extra-biblical revelation, I should say, prophecies, words of knowledge, divine inspiration, etc., which is actually not exclusively things that are coming from the Word of Faith Pentecostal movement, which is the worst form of the charismatic-slash-Pentecostal movements, even those that I know and love and cherish as my brothers in Christ, who are either charismatic or Pentecostal or non-cessationist, continuous or continuationist, as they're sometimes called, even among them, they would consider the Word of Faith movement an embarrassment, they would consider them charlatans and dangerous heretics.

But this issue is not exclusively from their backyard, meaning the Word of Faith movement, and we'll get into that more clearly in the moments to come. But, Justin, just for the sake of those who have never heard you on the show before and have never heard of you at all, perhaps you could give us a very brief summary of why you got involved in a ministry that primarily exposes or seeks to expose and warn against the Word of Faith movement and false preachers, teachers, and charlatans that are associated with it.

Yeah, that is what you are most loved for and most hated for.

Yeah, that's a fair statement.

Depending upon who is reacting to what you do. And I, for one, love what you do, obviously, because I love having you return to this program. If anybody wants to find out more about Justin Peters Ministries, just go to justinpeters .org, justinpeters .org.

And also, if you are interested in my co-host's ministry, who is Andrew Rapoport, his website for Striving for Eternity Ministries. In fact, perhaps you could give that to me, Andrew, because for some reason I'm having a little bit of a problem opening up your website.

What is your website?

It's justinpeters .org.

I thought that's what it was.

Yeah, from there you can also get to our website.

Great.

And in fact, I know that my guest and co-host are very close friends and very often when Justin travels, Andrew Rapoport has accompanied him and helps him out with his physical needs because of his disabilities.

And I'm assuming, Justin, that even in the 21st century, in spite of the politically correct dictionaries we're all supposed to have, I'm assuming it's okay to refer to you as disabled, is it not? Well, I'll never do that, but you could do that.

I'll do that.

Yeah, you don't have to be careful.

And if anybody also wants to hear part two, I'm sorry, part one of the discussion that we're having today, which was actually conducted on January 8th about the false prophecies of 2020 and 2021, after the show is over, you can go to irontriponsirenradio .com and click Podcast Past Shows.

And then in the search engine, type in Justin Peters. All of Justin's interviews will come up, at least those that have been broadcast since we relaunched in 2015 and have a new website. The older interviews may not be ready yet to listen to, but hopefully eventually Webmaster will have those available as well right at your fingertips.

But type in Justin Peters at irontriponsirenradio .com, type that in in the search engine, and Justin's past interviews will come up, and the first one at the top of the list should be the part one of our discussion today that was held on January 8th.

Well, if you wouldn't mind, Justin, if you could set us up, because we have some clips that we are going to air, and one of the reasons I love interviewing you is you frequently provide clips, and as you did when you were my luncheon speaker for Iron Trump and Zion Radio here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, you brought a number of video clips, because what I routinely hear from the proponents of the Word of Faith movement or just your run-of-the-mill charismatic or Pentecostal individual, very often they will say, ah, you're relying on a hearsay or something, that can't be true, or yeah, you just heard this by word of mouth, I just don't believe it.

That's why one of the reasons it's valuable to have these, especially since all of these prophecies by these charlatans have not come to be, they've all failed, and it's good to have a public record of this, even though, of course, they are like Teflon, because people either have amnesia or they worship these people or idolize them to such a high extent that they don't care that they've proven themselves to be false prophets over and over and over and over and over again.

They still pour their accolades on these people and support them with their money. But if you could help us with the first clip, which is a clip of Pat Robertson, and before we even do that, would you categorize Pat Robertson as a part of the Word of Faith Pentecostal movement?

I know, of course, he is a Pentecostal or charismatic, I should say. He's actually, at least he was, for most of his Christian life, a Southern Baptist, which may be very surprising to many. Even for most of his career hosting the 700 Club, he was a Southern Baptist.

But would you consider him a Word of Faith preacher, teacher?

That's the way he thinks, and he will be tremendous on the economy. He's uncomfortable with foreign policy, I feel. But nevertheless, he'll be a strong, strong man. But if he comes in, secondly, he's going to have a second term.

He's going to win. Romney will win the election.

You believe that?

I absolutely believe that.

What makes you believe that?

Because the Lord told me.

Well, that's what I'm glad to know.

I wasn't sure how you knew.

Really, the Lord said that to you?

Yeah, absolutely. I told Mitt a long time ago, I called him, I said, listen, I've been in prayer. Number one, you're going to win the nomination. Number two, you're going to win the general election. He said, well, what can I do for you?

I said, well, give me a seat on the platform.

Yeah, so that was Pat. Monumental as the United States president. Something that is, it comes around like clockwork. And they even have a 50. Okay, in fact, Andrew, I believe that I have this working now.

So this is the second clip. And explain that again very briefly, Justin. Set up the clip. Okay, here it is.

First of all, I want to say without question, Trump is going to win the election. And that doesn't mean you sit home and don't vote. That means you get up and do everything you can to work. But he's going to win.

That's, I think, a given. According to what I believe the Lord told me, the president is going to be reelected. I'm saying by all means, get up and vote. I think it's time to pray. But ladies and gentlemen, that's the word.

You ask what's going to happen next? That's what's going to happen next.

Now, it's kind of interesting how these people speak, especially Pat Robertson. Pat Robertson has always spoke as if he needs to put tinfoil on his head or something to get a better reception from the Holy Spirit because he first begins saying that he knows this with certainty.

And then later on in the same sentence, seconds later, he says, I think that's what the Lord is telling me, or I believe this is what the Lord is telling me. Those are two different things, aren't they, to say something with certainty and say, I believe the Lord is telling me this.

And has a prophet in the scriptures that was a true prophet ever been questioning or not 100 certain that what they were prophesying was from God himself? And by the way, for all of the millennials in the audience or those who are younger who had no idea what my reference was concerning the tinfoil, those of us who are older folks, when we used to have television sets that actually required antennas, also known as rabbit ears, we used to put tinfoil on them, and it actually helped improve the reception, the picture on many occasions, sometimes even sticking in a coat hanger in there and all kinds of stuff.

But now we have to go to our first break, and when we return either Justin will pick up where he left off on that same clip or we'll play the next clip. And again, if anybody wants to join us, our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

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Justin.

This vision of the wounded eagle.

Well, Sid, I was in a season of fasting, and during that time of fasting, he took me to the heavenlies, and I saw this eagle. And the left side of this eagle.

The eagle represents what?

The United States of America.

Okay.

And I saw where this left wing had dropped and was battered and bruised and wounded deeply, but it had an American flag wrapped around it like a banner. You take a normal banner on your wounds.

Okay.

Why don't I give some commentary on that.

You want to set up the next clip that we are about to hear. Your presidency?

Absolutely, we will.

You're sure about that?

I'm sure about that.

I think you need clip number six.

Okay.

So that's, yeah, no, that's.

In fact, just to follow up on that myself, Justin, we had in an earlier conversation, but for the sake of those who didn't hear that conversation, when things like this happen, when, like, for instance, you have these prophets, these false prophets, declaring with certainty that Donald Trump was going to win his second term, and Joe Biden is now our president.

Do they fall back on the excuse that, yes, indeed, it is true that Biden is now officially in the White House, but he did so by fraud, and Donald Trump actually did win the election. So they will say that their prophecy stands as a correct prophecy.

Do you have that as an excuse, that people hurl at you or that respond to any opponent?

Yes.

I've never heard that expression before.

Okay.

We'll set up this next clip that Andrew also seemed to be anxious to hear.

Hearing the Lord say.

Okay, so this is Pastor Denise Goulet again that we talked about a little bit earlier. Notice that she says she is hearing the Lord say the following to her. This is not out of her own imagination or her own opinion.

This is what Yahweh is telling her.

It was, this is my son with whom I'm aware. Okay.

You want to follow up with that clip with some explanation?

She channeled God.

That sounds a lot like the pastor of the church, which was at one time Martin Luther King Jr.'s church, where he pastored, that pastor who preached at John Lewis's funeral and was saying that by John Lewis's stripes, we as a nation are healed.

Very blasphemous stuff. But this case, what you just played, this prophetess Denise, this is worse because this isn't just an analogy. This is her actually hearing this allegedly from God himself.

Yes. They channel God and then be that.

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