Middle Knowledge, Grounding Objection, & Mormonism

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criticism of Molinism in general and then we're gonna we're gonna do a Shifting now after this last point here but so your biggest criticism of Molinism is a it you don't think it reflects the teaching of Scripture the clear teaching of Scripture and Philosophically, you think the grounding objection is kind of a nail in the coffin of the concept in general.

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I Don't I until someone can explain? How you can know an

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How you can know what a free creature would do Before God decrees the universe in which he exists

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His own character his own capacities What his physical nature is going to be what his mental nature is going to be what is gifting to?

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I'm sorry, it create it makes It makes human volition something that is utterly separated from the human being itself

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Because if you're gonna say that God decreed that you get to have hair and I don't

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Okay That if you're gonna say that the decisions that we make is somehow some completely separate thing

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From how we've been made the context in which we're gonna live

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The whole we are it Separates it out in a way that's that really is sort of a

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Greek philosophical thing It's it's not the Hebrew way of thinking of man. Man is a body soul spirit unity it's all connected together when we're born where we're born everything else is a part of who we are and Middle knowledge treats all of that as if it's just something that can exist out there someplace and then it's almost like the

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Mormon concept Intelligences, you know all of a sudden while these intelligence out there gets zoomed down into us a pre -existing spirit and then into the into the mortal probation all the rest of stuff no,

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I Aside from just going. I really think this would have confused. Can you see

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Peter going? Middle knowledge. Could you explain that again? Could we try that one more time? What?