1 Timothy 2:12 is not cultural: Pastor Tom Ascol on the Dead Men Walking Podcast

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1 Timothy 2:12 is not cultural: Pastor Tom Ascol on the Dead Men Walking Podcast

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Certain scriptures that that pop into my brain first 1st Timothy 2 12 of course

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And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man But be to be inside and silence and then

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Titus 2 4 and 5 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands to love their children to be discreet chased

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Homemakers good obedient to their own husbands that the Word of God may not be blasphemed

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And whenever I hear these verses spoken and The pushback is always.

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Oh, so women are supposed to submit. I'm like, yeah Ephesians 5 You know it and there's and it's like it turns into that chauvinistic, you know

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Like oh man lords over the woman and and you know, there's there's all these different Stipulations that people want to throw in on our on our human level or whatever

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But could you just speak on some of that some of that pushback that that we hear from you know?

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Because I mean we're supposed to love our love our wives like Christ loves the church lay down our life, you know

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Yeah, we have the greater. We have a greater calling, you know, so I mean this is this is huge and maybe that's moving away from the

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Women in the pastoral role, but you know, I don't know Tom What could what is our what is our defense at that?

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Yeah, well, it's it's more fundamental than the issue that is being debated. It goes back to Genesis 1 1

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This is God's world and he gets to set the rules Yeah, and people don't like his rules

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I mean, that's just the basic reality of today is we live in this egalitarian age Where everybody gets a trophy and nobody's supposed to be better than anybody else

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We're supposed to be tearing down all hierarchies and Anyone that advanced above others is an oppressor

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I mean This is the worldview of the day that has come in like a flood and even within the church

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We have seen this happen and so people get offended by the verses like the one you read in 1st

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Timothy 2 12 You know, I do not permit a woman to exercise authority over man or to teach

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Yeah, well what the way that that verse has been Mangled in many church circles today.

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It winds up saying I do permit a woman to teach And that was for that time is what

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I'll tell you Yeah, that's right. It was for that time. Well, he appeals to Creation in the very next verse, you know because even one who was deceived so you go back to creation

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What do you find in Genesis 1 in 2? Well, God created Adam first God gave

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Adam the responsibility Initially in the garden I mean he wasn't there when Adam started

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Exercising the cultural mandate and you look at the things that Adam was responsible to do Well, he was naming all of the animals.

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What is that? Well, that's an exercise of authority when God creates from Adam Eve and gives her to Adam.

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What does he do? He calls her Eve. He names her. I mean, he's the one who doesn't even after the fall in Genesis 3

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He calls her Eve. He gives her her name the mother of all living. So this is this is a

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Issue of authority authority is not bad authority to be abused yeah, but all of life is under the ultimate authority of Jesus Christ and What we're facing today in these specific issues like women pastors or whatever

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Women want to do or other people think they ought to be allowed to do is really a rebellion against Genesis 1 month

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This is God's world and what we've got to do as Christians is come to terms with what the

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Bible says Refuse to compromise it be as careful and clear as we can be as loving as we can be and not flinch and Saying just what you said.