Matt Slick Bible Study - 8/2/2017 - Mormonism Pt. 4

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So today is August 2nd, and we're gonna continue on Mormonism.

We're gonna start with the priesthood.

And if you're following the slide, the numbers of the paragraphs, you'll know we've skipped like about 10.

And it's only because at that point, it's a thing on the true Jesus, which we'll save till the end on a

witnessing technique.

So when we do a bunch of stuff on how to witness to Mormons and things like that.

Okay?

Okay.

All right.

So what we'll do now is we'll pray.

We'll jump right into paragraph 113.

This goes with a manual that I developed a few years ago.

And it's entry level, but there's a lot of good stuff in it.

And there's a lot to learn.

So let's pray.

We'll jump right in.

We'll get into the LDS priesthood.

Lord Jesus, we thank you, Lord, for your great mercy, your great grace.

And I ask Jesus that you would bless us.

Bless this time and all who would hear, all who would see.

Lord, if there's Mormons who are watching, just ask Lord that you would bless them, that you would open their hearts,

open their minds to the truth of who you are, that they might not rest

on their own ability to be sincere, their own ability to be good enough.

Lord, that they would recognize their own sinfulness and that they must throw themselves completely at you.

Lord Jesus, may your blood cleanse us continually every day as we depend on you and

look to you.

Lord Jesus, we thank you and we ask you bless this time and we ask it in your name, Jesus.

Amen.

Amen.

All right.

Get this cord, which just came out from my laptop.

Power cord, not a big deal.

All right, now we had a microphone set up and as always

happens, we have a problem with something.

There's always a technical problem, which is why we're always late.

And so we've got this right here.

Hopefully it's working fine, good.

And you can hear me and it may sound a little echoey.

So we'll just see how it goes.

All right, let's just jump right in.

In Mormonism, authority is through the priesthood, which consists of a lower and higher priesthood.

The lower priesthood is the Aaronic priesthood, the higher is Melchizedek.

Joseph Smith, along with Oliver Cowdery, received the priesthood authority, supposedly, in May

15th, 1829, by a visitation of John the Baptist.

Later, the apostle Peter, James and John, gave them the priesthood, Melchizedek priesthood.

Now, there is absolutely no way that happened.

It just did not happen.

What happens a lot in cult groups and false groups is they need to have a way to

bolster their own reputation, their own authority.

They can't just say, hey, look, I'm gonna start a new religion, even though people do.

And that reminds me, this is a true story.

I was in high school, I loved math, and I took a lot of math, and graduated, moved

from Orange County, California, near LA, down to San Diego, and doing ministry work down there.

Years, 20 years later, my, actually, for real, my math professor from high school

just happened to walk by where we were outside of church, like, hey, you know, and we got talking,

he remembered me.

I don't know if that's good or bad.

And he said that he got a revelation from God while he was in the shower, and that he

needed to start a new religion.

And I'm staring at him, because I had a lot of respect for him up to that moment.

And he was telling me that he was going to, it's called shower theology, and I said,

you're joking.

He goes, no, because it's in the shower, and getting cleansed of the water, and I just, you know, it sounds dumb, but it works.

And he started explaining it to me, and I was like, this guy is so deceived.

But nevertheless, you know, if someone's going to want to sound credible, they're going to have to have some way of

saying that they have authority.

Well, look at this.

I mean, come on.

Here, John the Baptist visited him, and Peter, James, and

John later on gave the priesthood.

Now, if you guys, you know, we're sitting here, and I said, look, I got to tell you, went

upstairs earlier while you guys were down here, and John the Baptist visited me while I was up there.

And I just got to let you know what he was saying.

You know, most of you would start throwing things or walking out of here or thinking, oh, we know, man, he's a complete buffoon sometimes, and he

jokes around.

We had to put you down.

You had to put me down, that's right.

You'd be on it for like that.

So you guys are smart enough, and educated enough, and saved enough to not fall for

something like that.

When people, however, back in the day of New York, where there was a lot of superstition

going on back in the early 1800s, well, you know what?

They're going to believe this stuff.

And all it takes is one or two guys to get together and say, yeah, we saw.

Eventually, people are going to believe this.

Now, I could do this.

I'm never going to, but I could.

We've talked about this before in this Bible study at different times.

We could literally invent a religion, spend a day working on a religion,

trying to make it make sense, and just make it up, right?

And then develop a website and put the doctrines in there, and then try and sound really smart about

why it means what it means.

And when you start promoting it, people will start signing up and following it.

People will believe stuff.

And this is the same case here.

They're believing that Joseph Smith, well, yeah, John the Baptist appeared to them along with

Peter, James, and John.

And no, he did not.

So what is the priesthood in this box?

It is nothing more or less than the power of God delegated to man by which he can act in the earth for

the salvation of the human family, by which they may baptize for their remission of sins and laying on of hands for the

reception of the Holy Ghost, and by which they can remit sin with the sanction and blessing of Almighty God.

Joseph Fielding Smith in 1919.

Now, what does this sound like?

What religion does that remind you of?

Anyone, what?

Catholicism.

Catholicism, right.

They have the priesthood authority, and they can remit sin with the blessing of Almighty God.

It's the same as Catholicism.

In fact, there are a lot of times when I'm talking to Roman Catholics that I'll quote the Book of Mormon, and they

say, yeah, that's right.

They don't even understand.

And I could do it backwards here as well.

And you will see later, if we get to it tonight, if I don't stop taking so many tangents, we'll get to some

of the quotes, and you'll see it's just the same as Roman Catholicism.

And there's some reasons for that because of apostasy in groups.

The Aaronic priesthood is also called the Levitical priesthood.

It's held by good Mormon boys, age 12 and up.

Contains the office of deacon, teacher, and priest.

Melchizedek priesthood is a higher form of priesthood and contains elder, 70, high priest, patriarch, or evangelist

and apostle.

The holder takes it by taking an oath and making a covenant.

When you talk to Mormons, they will ask you about what authority you speak.

They're trained to believe their restored church has all the keys, authority, and priesthood, just like

the Catholic church.

And also, it's like Jehovah's Witnesses.

They're similar here.

They have the authority.

They are the ones with a true gospel, their organization, God's organization on earth in Brooklyn, and so they have that

authority.

People want authority.

They need authority in their church.

Now, here's a problem.

What they're doing is actually equating church with an organization on earth.

But church, ekklesia, you guys can see this.

This is the, what?

Ekklesia, that's the word for church.

It might be this way.

It's been a long time.

Let me see.

No, it's K.

I don't have a C's in there.

So it's ekklesia.

That's just church, right?

Now, we have Greek words for called and chosen and election.

Ekklegai, ekklegamai, ekklektos, ekklesia.

We are the called out ones.

The church is comprised of the people indwelt by the Lord God, John 14, 23.

And the word church is used in different contexts, at least five different ways.

And you can go to CARM and you can look up church grid.

Just do a search, church grid, and I give you a table of every single occurrence of the word

ekklesia, church, as it occurs, and it's translated as assembly sometimes,

and other things.

But nevertheless, what they're doing, what the Roman Catholic Church does too, is say that churches, the

authorities bound up with their specific earthly organization, and they tie

the word church to that.

Not the indwelling of God, and we are all members of the true church, who

Christ is, no matter what church we go to, if we believe in Christ.

That's not what it is.

They have to have the true church.

So we need to approach the Mormon with the word of God.

The problem is that they really don't believe it.

So when you present the following scriptures, they'll be skeptical.

Now that reminds me, I was in San Diego and a Mormon, I heard about a Mormon meeting at a house,

about 10 miles away.

And so I drove to this meeting, and the meeting was interesting in that it was gonna be a, they pass out

flyers and all this stuff, a meeting about the introduction to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints.

And there'd be cookies and some stuff, and a bunch of people from the neighborhood were gonna show up there looking into the church.

So I went.

I wasn't there to make any trouble.

And the guy who did the presentation, oh man, it was heartfelt, almost a tear,

as he's talking about the wonders of scripture, and how the Bible talks about so many wonderful things.

And of course he's ripping verses out of context.

Or I mean, you could hear it.

I'm like, did you hear that again?

I'm ripping out of context.

I mean, it was over and over and over, but I'm sitting here taking mental notes, just paying attention.

And then he talked, smoothed right into the Book of Mormon and the restored gospel.

And then it was a nice meeting, adjournment and people and handshakes and everything.

And I went up to him afterwards and I said, you know, I really appreciate your presentation.

And he says, oh, thank you so much.

It was so wonderful to have you here.

I'm so glad that you and others have shown up.

It was really just really nice.

I said, yeah, my question though, you know, I'm curious because in the eighth article, you guys say the Bible is correct only

insofar as it's correctly translated.

So why would you use it?

He goes, it can't be trusted.

His whole demeanor and tone and body language shifted as he

attacked the word of God.

But he had just used it for his purposes of deception.

And who did that?

Satan, in Genesis chapter three, verses one through six.

The same thing.

They're not gonna believe the word of God, but it doesn't mean you don't use the word of God.

Isaiah 55, 11, the word of God will not come back empty without accomplishing what God desires.

You speak the word of God.

And we can go through all kinds, there's so much to go through.

But where do we get our authority?

Our authority is by Jesus Christ.

Mormons say, where'd you get your authority?

For as many as received him, to them he gave the authority to be called the children of God, John 1, 12.

I received him, so I have that authority.

Well, you don't have the authority of the priesthood.

What priesthood?

The Melchizedek priesthood, okay?

And are you familiar with covenant?

They stare at me.

Are you familiar with the word testamentum in Latin?

Which I know they're not.

Which is covenant, old covenant.

You know when a covenant is ratified, you know when old covenant ends.

And so the priesthood is for the sacrificial system in the Old Testament that ended with Christ.

And yet you say you have a priesthood.

So why do you have a priesthood when the Bible says you don't need a priesthood in that sense anymore?

Well, I'm playing with them a little bit.

And they'll say, well, no, we have a New Testament priesthood.

Can you show me that in scripture?

And then they don't wanna talk to me anymore.

So what they're doing is going back underneath the Old Testament law.

This is what false religious systems do that are based in scripture or that use the Bible.

They go back under the law.

You gotta keep the law to satisfy God.

You gotta have the priesthood.

You gotta have the ability to forgive sins by the priesthood and the authority, whatever it is, back under the Old Testament.

There is no law for the Christian though, except the law of loving God and loving your neighbor.

Now, according to Mormonism, the Catholic priesthood is the higher priesthood, but Jesus is that higher priesthood.

He is the high priest.

Look at what it says here, Hebrews 6 .20, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us having become a high

priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

7 .26, for it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled,

separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens.

Wait a minute, a high priest.

Melchizedek is a high priest because he's a high priest after the order of Melchizedek and Jesus is the high priest.

A lot of people don't know this, but I'm gonna show you something.

Well, here's God and here's man, all right?

See that?

So a priest stands here and does this, takes the offerings of man, offers them

to God.

Let's do this, priest.

A prophet is, does this, takes the word of God

to here.

So Jesus is a priest offering the sacrifice to God, the Father, the sacrifice of himself.

And only have one high priest at a time.

And he's the high priest after the order of Melchizedek, one.

Hebrews 7 .28, for the law appoints men as high priests who are weak, but the word of the oath, which came after the law

appoints a son made perfect forever.

Hebrews 8 .3 and 4, for every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices.

Hence, it is necessary that this high priest also have something to offer.

Now, if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since

there are those who offer the gifts according to the law.

Wait a minute, I should ask the Mormons, are you on earth right now?

No.

You're the cousin of priesthood?

Yeah.

Can we go to Hebrews 8 and just read around a little bit?

And you can see the problems that they're gonna have.

Now, this is an issue of theology and Christianity that we would have to get into later on about priesthood,

authority, covenant, intercession, the offering and things like

that.

We don't have time for that right now.

So are there any Melchizedek priests in your church who are undefiled?

You're gonna ask the Mormons.

Undefiled, it's gotta be undefiled, right?

And who are offering gifts and sacrifices?

If not, then how are they acting in accordance with what the Bible says a priesthood is after the order of Melchizedek?

Okay.

Mormon temples are supposed to be sacred.

Before I get into this, I'm gonna say, if there's any Mormons listening and watching, we're

gonna get into the Mormon temple ceremony.

But I'm gonna tell you, because the intention is not just simple ridicule, it's

exposure.

And the reason I'm saying this, I want you guys to know why I'm saying this online is because my intention is not

to insult or offend any Mormon.

My intention is to inform them of the truth.

And the Mormon temple ceremony for them is supposed to be extremely sacred.

And a lot of times they won't discuss it.

It used to be they were sworn to death, secrecy, oaths, and all this stuff.

That's been changed.

So I want them to know that as we get into this, the intention is not mockery at all, but there is a very significant

theological, something we need to study in their ceremony.

So anyway, let me go back into that paragraph 122.

The Mormon temples are sacred places to the LDS community, so much so that the Mormons take an oath not to

reveal what goes on in them.

They're used for baptisms, the endowment ceremony, receiving ritual or teaching rituals, the

covenants, et cetera.

Marriages that last for time and eternity and sealing so that LDS families can stay together forever.

Though we Christians do not consider these ceremonies to be true or sacred, it does not mean that we can be disrespectful to them and

tread underfoot that which they hold sacred and dear.

This is important.

I know of a lot of guys who behave in a manner that I don't think is proper.

So as you know, that there's going to be a temple opening here pretty soon in Meridian.

We got some people coming in and we're going to go out there with signs and we're going to stand out there.

That's our right, our privilege in this country.

I know a guy who actually would go out there in the Mormon temple ceremony, the Mormon temple garments and put a goat's

head or something on as a mask and walk around.

I don't agree with that.

That's offensive.

There's no need for that.

But you know, he's going to do what he's got to do.

And I just try not to be too associated with them.

So this is not for mockery, all right?

The source of information is a transcription done by a member of the LDS church in July, 1990.

He considered his oath to the Mormon God to be invalid upon realizing that the LDS church was

false.

There've been many changes in the ceremony, what was presented.

In fact, I think after I did this, there was a gentleman who

actually took a camera into the church and you can see that online.

I've watched the whole thing and you can check it out.

So this is a temple recommend and you need a temple recommend.

Notice what it says in the bottom, whoops, the bottom left here.

When properly signed and endorsed, this certifies that the person named is in good standing and

may enter the house of the Lord.

Now, this is where you really should be starting to get upset.

You're in a good standing, so now you can enter God's house.

So are you good enough?

You paid your full 10 % tithe of your church.

You've been keeping the word of wisdom.

You have been morally clean, upright.

Not absolutely perfect, but you know, just morally upright and clean.

Well, then you're worthy to go into God's house now.

My worth is not through my own effort.

My worth is through the blood of Christ.

And so I have the access to the throne of God through the blood of Jesus Christ.

I don't need a church.

I don't need a temple.

I don't need garments.

I don't need handshakes.

I don't need anybody's priesthood authority.

I don't need any restored gospel.

I have Jesus, God in flesh, who offered himself on my behalf,

cleansing me of my sins and ascended into the right hand of the Father after he rose from the

dead.

My authority comes from him by the fact of being a child of God, John 1 12.

I do not need any man -made anything that puts me back under the Old Testament

law where I have to be made worthy in order to enter into the presence of God.

I can never be worthy to enter into the presence of God.

I can never even begin to try to be worthy.

I'm not good enough.

Nobody is good enough.

This is a sign of a non -Christian cult to think that

they in any way, shape or form are able to keep any law in any way, shape or

form in order to make themselves sufficiently worthy to enter into the presence of God.

That is absolute foolishness.

It is arrogance and it is pride to actually think that

is so prideful.

Yes, I have done what I've got to do.

And look at my piece of paper.

This gives me the authority to enter into the house of God.

This piece of paper, which says I paid 10 of my income to the church and kept various

laws.

I've been morally upright.

See, look at the paper I have.

This is not Christianity.

They didn't have any temple recommends in the Old Testament.

They didn't have any rituals that they all had to go through in order to get in there.

One high priest on Yom Kippur once a year would enter into the

tabernacle, into the holy place and the holy of holies.

He would do it once a year and he had to be ceremonially clean.

And he went in with fear and trepidation as he would walk from the holy place around the veil into

the holy presence of God and the holy of holies.

One man, once a year, was allowed to go in there to do that.

And if he did anything wrong, God would kill him.

He had to be right, perfect in everything he did.

And what they would do is tie a rope to his ankle.

Because if he went in and did something wrong, nobody's gonna go in and get him.

Yeah, I'll be right back.

All right.

Not happening, all right.

So they would drag him out.

But the Mormons, hey, I got my paper.

In the temple ceremony, the Mormons, excuse me, go through an ordinance called washing and anointing.

Men are separated from the women.

Nothing kinky goes on in there.

Just let people know.

The temple participants enters one of several small booths where a temple worker ceremonially touches or

washes various parts of the patron's body.

A blessing is spoken over the person by a temple worker.

He is ceremoniously anointed with olive oil, and the person is then confirmed.

This is all ceremony.

Nothing weird or kinky goes on.

So they receive a new name.

Of course, everybody receives the same name, you know, on that day, okay?

And yeah.

So what we're gonna do now is go into some part of the Mormon temple ceremony.

I'm gonna be reading both parts.

We have to go through this.

You've gotta know what goes on in there.

Now, when I first heard of this, it was from Chuck and Dolly Sackett.

Chuck and Dolly Sackett.

And this is back around 1980, 79 or 80, I can't remember.

And we went out to Hemet, California when I was down in SoCal, and we had a big meeting and

stuff and anyway.

And they had been temple workers for 25 years.

So they had gone through it as workers in a temple for like 25 years, 20, 25 years.

They knew it, they had it all memorized because you just, that's what happened.

You do it every day, every day, over and over and over for 20, 25 years, right?

You memorize it.

And they wrote down everything that goes on.

And I remember talking to them and saying, are you sure about this?

And we'll get to it.

And he said to me, Chuck, he looks in my eyes, he goes, yes, that's what happened.

I said, okay, now look, I need to make sure that I got this right.

Are you, let me go over this again.

And he just sit there.

I said, so what you're telling me is A, B, C, D, and then blah, blah, blah.

And then he goes, yes.

I said, okay.

I could ask you a third time.

So I asked him the same thing a little bit differently the third time, just make sure.

And he said, that's what happens.

I said, okay.

Three times I asked him.

You're going to see what's going on here.

This is inside the temple.

Now they have a film that used to be that it was acted, but with actors, and now they have a film

and it's been changed, but nevertheless.

So there's this one particular place where Lucifer is played by a guy.

Adam is played by a guy, okay.

Lucifer, well, Adam, you have here a new world or have a new world here.

A new world, he says?

Yes, a new world patterned after the old one where you used to live, okay.

Right there, we got some problems, but let's continue.

Adam says, I know nothing about any other world.

Lucifer says, oh, I see your eyes are not yet opened.

You have everything.

You must eat some of the fruit.

Do I have that right?

I think I got that.

You have something.

I think this graphic is, I noticed a couple of times when I show it here, the graphic alters and

covers a word.

So I think that's what's happening here.

Anyway, you have everything.

You must eat some of the fruit of the tree.

Lucifer plucks fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and presents it to Adam.

He's just going, what?

Okay, Lucifer, Adam, here is some fruit of this tree.

It will make you wise.

Adam says, I will not partake of that fruit.

Father, father, now whose father?

Literally, God is his literal father.

Okay.

Father told me that in the day I should partake of it, I should surely die.

Lucifer, you shall not surely die, but shall be as God's, knowing good and

evil.

I will not partake of it.

Lucifer, oh, you will not?

Well, we shall see.

Lucifer goes in search of Eve and here's a lamb bleating.

He turns his head and finds Eve carrying a small lamb.

Lucifer, Eve, here are some of the fruit of that tree.

It will make you wise.

It is delicious to the taste and very desirable.

Eve says, who are you?

I am your brother.

Now in Mormonism, we were all born as brothers and sisters to each other

in the preexistence.

We're brothers and sisters to Satan.

We're brothers and sisters to Jesus because God has a body of flesh and bones and his goddess wife has a body of flesh and bones

and they mingle and produce offspring.

All right, so Lucifer is Eve's brother.

Eve says, you, my brother, and you come here to persuade me to disobey father?

Lucifer says, I have said nothing about father.

I want you to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, that your eyes may be opened for it is the way

father gained his knowledge.

So in other words, sinning is how you gain the knowledge.

You must eat of this fruit.

Now who's doing the teaching incidentally?

Satan's in the teaching.

You must eat of this fruit so as to comprehend that everything has its opposite, good and evil, virtue and vice, light

and darkness, health and sickness, pleasure and pain.

Thus your eyes will be open and you will have knowledge.

Is there no other way?

Lucifer says, there is no other way.

Then I will partake.

Eve takes the fruit from Lucifer and bites it.

Lucifer approves and places the other piece in her hand.

Lucifer says, there, now go and get Adam to partake.

Eve turns and seeks Adam, fruit in hand.

She finds him kneeling by a brook, dipping his hand into the water.

Fish are seen swimming below the surface and the white doves fly nearby.

As Eve speaks to Adam, he stands and smiles as he sees her.

She's probably pretty hot, that's why.

Hey, she's a perfect woman, you know?

Adam, here are some of the fruit of that tree.

It is delicious to the taste and very desirable.

Eve, do you know what fruit that is?

Eve says, yes, it is a fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

You'd think by now, since she ate of it, she'd know what she was doing was evil.

You know, so she's really bad because she wants him to.

Okay, Adam says, I cannot partake of it.

Do you not know that Father commanded us not to partake of the fruit of that tree?

Eve says, do you intend to obey all of Father's commandments?

Adam says, yes, all of them.

Eve, do you not remember that Father commanded us to multiply and replenish the earth?

I have partaken of this fruit and by so doing shall be cast out and you will be left alone

men in this garden of Eden.

He'd be by himself.

No, he can't obey God.

Eve, I see that this must be.

I will partake that men may be.

So he is now going to sin on purpose so they can have kids.

This is her wisdom, tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Mormon view.

So Adam takes a bite and Lucifer walks to their side with a look of approval.

Lucifer, that is right.

Eve says, it is better for us to pass through sorrow that we may know good from evil.

This is awesome.

Let me think about it.

Lucifer is doing teaching.

In order for people to exist, now they have to sin.

And -.

They trust his teaching.

Okay.

It's better for us to pass through sorrow that we may know good from evil.

I forget what I just said.

So anyway, anyway, go on.

I know thee now, thou art Lucifer, he who is cast out of the Father's presence for rebellion.

Yes, you begin to see already.

Now, ready?

Adam says, what is that apron you have on?

Lucifer draws his cloak up to reveal a black apron.

Now this is a green one.

That's because that's what they have.

That's what they're given when the Mormons go into the temple.

Okay.

Oh, I get a little typo there.

Lucifer, it's an emblem of my power and priesthoods.

What is the apron?

A power, a symbol of his power and priesthoods.

Adam says, I'm looking for a father to come down to give us further instructions.

Lucifer, oh, you're looking for a father to come down, are you?

The God's plural voice are suddenly heard in the garden.

Now there's a bunch of gods.

Elohim, Jehovah, we promised Adam and Eve that we would visit them and give them further

instruction.

Now Jehovah is Jesus.

Elohim is God the Father, even though in the Bible it says Jehovah is Elohim.

First Kings 860.

They totally got this all screwed up.

Jehovah says, we will go down, Elohim.

Let me get some drink here.

Can you guys believe this?

This is incredible, huh?

It's insane.

But wait, there's more.

So we'll go down.

Adam says, I hear their voices.

They're coming.

Lucifer, see, you're naked.

Take some fig leaves and make you aprons.

Father will see your nakedness.

Quick, hide.

Come, let us hide, says Adam, the narrator.

Brethren and sisters, put on your aprons.

The film pauses temporarily.

The lights are turned up while the patrons remove their fig leaf aprons from the bundles.

All patrons tie the aprons around their waist.

The lights are again turned down and the film resumes.

The camera pans down and presents the God's perspective as they descend.

Adam hides behind foliage.

Now, I was told by the Sackets

that the leaf pattern on the black and on this are as identical.

Just the color's different.

Now, get this.

You're in a temple.

Adam says, what's that you have on?

Oh, it's my, my apron is the symbol of my power and priesthood.

To talk a little bit, then the film stops and the Mormons are instructed to put on

their aprons.

What is their apron a symbol of?

This is what happens.

Now, a lot of Mormons, there's on record, a lot of Mormons leave Mormonism right here.

They are done.

They see this, that Satan's the one doing the teaching.

Satan's the one who's got the authority.

He has that apron, the same type apron that they have been given and they put

it on after he says what it is.

This is stupefying.

That's why I said to him, let me get this straight.

Let me, you know, three times, three times I had to ask him.

He goes, yes.

He was very patient.

I still remember that.

He just, yep.

He didn't, wasn't annoyed.

I said, wow, I can't believe this.

Now, there's more in the temple ceremony.

There's shaking hands.

There's hugs.

There's different ways of doing things.

But this right here is instructive because this is where,

this is where I believe that an absolute

demonic presence comes over them.

And those who don't see are just given over to this

occult stupidity.

Now, I've been to Temple Square many times and

I was with a friend once and we went across the street.

I think it was a South side, West side.

I think it was West side.

And there was museums there.

And we went inside and looking around.

And what I found in one of the rooms for the children

was an interesting symbol, the circle.

I'm going to mess this up.

Okay.

The symbol here is the goat heads, the pentagram.

And in the museum, whatever part it was up there for the children area

was a colored pentagram that was there for the children

to put the pieces back together to make a pentagram.

This is for real.

And I'm with my friend.

I didn't even know that was there and I'm sitting here staring at it.

And I, you know, it's, you know, he said, what?

I said, look at that.

It was a Mormon father and his wife and a couple of kids.

And they're like, oh look, look at these.

And so I said to him, so he could hear and he gave me a dirty look, but I didn't say

it loudly.

I just said it.

I said, that is amazing, that pentagram.

I said, that is exactly the symbol used in Satan worship.

And it's amazing that they have it here for their children to participate with.

And that, the father looked at me like he was mad, but I had to say it because that

is what it is.

It's an occult symbol.

Come on now guys.

If I get all this money coming to me, I win the lotto, find a ticket in the ground, win the lotto.

And I build a new church and I put pentagrams around it.

How many want to come?

Let's go to the pentagram church.

Let's get some secret handshakes on the temples.

Been in there, right?

You want to go?

No, but they do

a pre -1990 temple ceremony.

For over 100 years, the LDS temple ceremony contained a segment attacking Protestant theology.

We're going to go through that now.

And the majesty of God.

After 1990, the ceremony or the following segment was removed.

This is what used to be in it, but they took it out.

The problem is since the temple ceremony was supposed to have been received by revelation from God, that was given to Joseph Smith.

Look at the quote here.

Joseph Smith received the temple endowment and its ritual as all else he promulgated by revelation from God.

So why would they change the temple ceremony?

It used to be paleo and they would take a blood oath to be killed.

They took that out.

This is taken out.

Why?

Because it got out and ministers said, what are you doing?

Oh, well, you know, we've got a new revelation here.

We could modify the sacred thing that had been down, handed down to us from the prophets.

Why would it be changed if it's true?

I'll tell you why it's changed.

Because of social pressure.

This is not of God.

This is of man.

Oh, this is bad news.

This is how it used to go.

Adam, I'm looking for messengers.

Lucifer, oh, you want someone to preach to you?

You want religion, do you?

I will have preachers here presently.

Lucifer turns his head as a Protestant minister approaches.

I'm a Protestant minister, okay?

Lucifer, good morning, sir.

The Protestant minister says, good morning.

The preacher turns and looks into the camera.

Protestant minister, a fine congregation.

Lucifer, yes, they're very good people.

They are concerned about religion.

Are you a preacher?

Protestant minister, I am.

Lucifer, have you been to college and received training for the ministry?

Protestant minister, certainly.

A man cannot preach unless he has been trained for the ministry.

That's not true.

It is not true.

It's a misrepresentation.

That's not what we teach.

That's never been what we teach.

But anyway, do you preach the Orthodox religion?

Yes, that is what I preach.

If you will preach your Orthodox religion to these people and convert them, I will pay you well.

He said, I'll do my best.

Now, wait a minute.

So the Protestant minister, who's supposed to follow the word of God, is sitting there making a

deal with the devil for money.

Right?

So this is a blasphemous misrepresentation by Mormonism.

They're supposed to be a restored truth.

And yet what they do is lie.

This is a lie about what we are.

It's an absolute lie.

It is not what the issue is.

Now, just so you know, in 1 Timothy 5, 17 and 18,

you are to give double honor to the elder, especially those who work hard at

preaching and teaching.

For the scripture says, you shall not muzzle the ox, for the workman is worthy of his

wages.

This is 1 Timothy 5, 17 and 18.

So what the double honor is in context of is being paid.

Believe it or not.

He's worthy of his wages.

That's what it actually is talking about.

I mean, go check it out.

It doesn't mean that we're supposed to, as ministers get double pay, which I would like.

I got plenty of bills to pay, but so what?

But the Mormons, you know what they do?

Oh no, we have unpaid people.

Really?

Really?

So this is at one point, it was a second richest corporation in Western Mississippi next to Bank America,

bringing in at least $2 million a day.

That was 15 years ago.

I don't even know what their stats are now.

And their people in their hierarchy, their structure, they get paid.

They have homes, they have cars, they have stuff.

But see, the hypocrisy is that in the ceremony, Lucifer is going to be working with a

Protestant minister.

And you wait.

You wait and see what happens, what he's going to be saying.

You see, you'll see.

What's up?

When you got rid of the pentagrams, it was like right over your shoulder.

The pentagram on the chalkboard.

You didn't take it no more.

Oh, okay.

Thank you.

The greater g that is in me than the pentagram on the chalkboard.

So, so anyway, we'll go on.

Thank you very much.

Okay, so you can see this is really blasphemous and it's a lie.

This is often the case.

You don't attack the truth, you attack a lie.

They invent stuff that's not true.

This is what they're taught about us.

In the most sacred ceremony, obviously it's sacred to them, but Lucifer is doing the teaching.

Lucifer is the one instructing.

Lucifer is the one who is there prominently giving instruction information.

And the Mormons are sitting there going, yeah, that's right.

Got the front of stinking aprons.

Lucifer guides a preacher to Adam and Eve who stand nearby.

Lucifer, he says, here is a man who desires religion.

He is very much exercised and seems to be sincere.

Protestant minister says, I understand that you are inquiring after religion.

Adam says, I was calling upon father.

Wait a minute, who is he calling upon?

Father, who answers?

Satan.

Protestant minister, I'm glad to know that you are calling upon father.

Do you believe in a God who is without body, parts or passions, who sits on top of a topless throne,

whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere, who fills the universe and yet is so small that he can

dwell in your heart, who is surrounded by myriads of beings who have been saved by grace, not for any

act of theirs, but by his good pleasure.

Do you believe in such a great being?

Is this what we teach?

This is what we teach.

This is it.

Adam says, I do not.

I cannot comprehend such a being.

So now the Protestant minister, who's in cahoots with Satan, is telling

the truth.

And the truth finally is in here, is made to look like a lie.

Now, Satan is the author of lies.

He is deceiving them greatly.

You know, if you're any Mormon, I don't care what Mormon it is, I challenge you, if you represent the Mormon church,

I'll debate you.

I will debate you on justification, sanctification, salvation, or the Bible, and the Book of Mormon.

You name it.

Anyway, Protestant.

That is the beauty of it.

Perhaps you do not believe in a devil and the great hell, the bottomless pit, where there's a lake of fire and brimstone into which the

wicked are cast and where they are continually burning.

But none ever consumed.

So now, salvation and damnation are mocked here.

This is insidious.

This is insidious.

You see, a lot of times people say to me, why do you get so upset about Mormonism?

This is one of the reasons.

This is sending people to eternal damnation.

And he says, anyway, Majira, I'm sorry for you.

Now, notice what Adam says here.

I do not comprehend such a being.

In other words, I can't understand him, so it can't be true.

If you can understand God in every aspect, he's not God.

He's a man -made creation.

The fingerprints of Satan are all over the ceremony.

Now, I personally am of the opinion, and I cannot prove this.

I cannot even really defend it.

But I believe Joseph Smith was already involved in the occult.

And when this lie started taking off, even more demonic forces gathered around him

to help him out.

And he became, at the very least, oppressed, most probably possessed.

And the larger the lie grew, the more possessed he became.

And I believe that the hierarchy of the Mormon church, many of them, I believe, know that this is a

lie.

But because of money and prestige, you're staying in it.

That's my opinion.

I got some anecdotal information about that, but I don't teach on that.

And so, this is the work of the devil, trying to undermine the

truth, in the name of God, to present the truth.

But it's really a lie.

This is why we Christians have got to know what we teach and know what it is we believe,

so we can refute this.

But most Christians don't know.

They couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper heresy bag.

They don't know what's going on.

And most elders that I've encountered aren't very good at defending the faith.

You know, it's a real problem here we have in this church.

Now, let's move on.

Notice that Adam refused to believe in God if he could understand Him.

He denies the God of the Bible who is infinite.

There are the verses, eternal, everywhere, incomprehensible, without limit.

He's denying the very God of Scripture.

Through this temple ceremony has been removed, this part.

The sentiment of denying an incomprehensible God and mocking the idea of paid clergy is still taught.

Consider the following.

Now, this was done in 2007.

In the year AD 325, the Roman Emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to

address, among other things, the growing issue of God's alleged trinity and unity.

There are three distinct persons, yet not three gods, but one.

Now, that's correct, okay?

All three persons are incomprehensible, yet it is one God who is incomprehensible, such a formulation for

divinity is truly incomprehensible.

How are we to trust, love, worship, to say nothing of strive to be like

one who is incomprehensible and unknowable?

So the condemnation of the true doctrine is still going on by the officials of the

Mormon Church.

Preachers, we have no professional trained and salaried clergy in the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter -day Saints.

Now, there's nothing wrong with being professionally trained.

I'm professionally trained.

I have a master of divinity.

It doesn't mean I'm right, but I have taken my studies very seriously.

And I studied Greek, I studied Hebrew, church history, read the Bible, studied, was taught by great men,

learned a great deal.

It was a great experience.

It was very difficult, but it was a good thing.

It doesn't mean I'm right about everything.

But you know what?

I've learned some stuff in seminary that I probably would never have gotten exposed to otherwise.

Now, there are good seminaries, there are bad seminaries.

And there's nothing wrong with being professionally trained.

Paul the Apostle was, and Jesus called him specifically.

And he quoted Epimenides, Menander, and Erastus, pagan philosophers, because he'd studied them.

The Mormons couldn't argue their way out of a white paper bag, okay?

They don't know what they're doing.

They're deceived.

They keep them under control.

In Mormonism, baptism is essential for salvation.

This is baptism for the dead now.

If a person has died without being baptized with proper authority provided in the Mormon church, then he cannot progress in the

afterlife.

Therefore, Mormons are baptized in proxy for the deceased person.

You guys have heard about this, I'm sure.

Mormon temple participant adopts the name of the deceased person during the baptism ceremony.

This is one of the reasons that genealogies are so important in Mormonism.

They want to trace people back in history so they can find their names and be baptized for them, okay?

Now, when I first went to Temple Square,

and the first time I ever saw this, not inside,

I saw a man, I can still see him, must've been 60, overweight, pear

-shaped.

I'm not mocking him, I just, I remember, white shirt, tie, black pants, carrying a big bag.

And I knew that he was coming out of the temple doing baptism work.

I don't know how I knew, I just knew.

And I could still see him.

And I started crying.

I was, I was saddened.

He looked happy, and he was serving the devil, and he's on his way to

hell.

And Bill McKeever, he had to wait for me to kind of recover, because I'd seen it.

I'd seen it, it was sad.

Nevertheless, they go to 1 Corinthians 15, 29, otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead if the dead are not raised at all?

Why then are they baptized for them?

We get into the context, so I can just jump to it very quickly.

Look at paragraph 136 right there.

Paul is not teaching that the Christians were baptizing for the dead.

He did not say, why then do we baptize for them?

He said, why do they baptize for them?

And what he's talking about there is the issue of the resurrection, because that's 1 Corinthians 15.

Is that my phone?

Oh, that's Skype.

I get paged every now and then to go into Skype rooms and answer questions.

And so this whole thing is, why are they baptized?

Okay, if it rings again, I'll get it.

I'll just turn it on, they can listen.

Anyway, the whole point is this.

Paul was not saying, why don't we baptize for the dead?

Why do they?

Even the unbelievers do that.

That's the whole point.

So we've got some time.

We might be able to finish this whole thing.

So what I'm gonna do is get another drink of water and go through some of the quotes.

I know I'm going a little bit on the fast side, so it will take a little bit longer to finish up some stuff here,

because these quotes that we're gonna get into are really interesting.

And I need to tell you, we're gonna get into this.

I believe that I have been blessed by God with righteous anger.

And there's gonna be a quote in here, I'm gonna show you, that started me on this.

One single quote from Joseph Smith that started me on all my apologetics endeavors.

It's in here.

It's the next thing we're gonna get into, we're gonna look at.

And it enraged me.

When I heard him say this arrogant, foolish boast, you guys have heard me talk about it.

And this is the founder of Mormonism.

This is a lie.

He's a liar.

Mormonism is not Christian.

All who die believing in official Mormon theology are gonna go to eternal damnation.

And I don't want them to do that.

One of the things I grew up hating was bullies.

My last name's Slick and I'm six feet tall.

I've gained 100 pounds since I was 19 at this height.

Imagine me 100 pounds, no lie, 100 pounds lighter, okay?

And I moved 26 times before I was 12 years old in 12 different elementary schools.

I know what it means to be bullied.

I know what it means to be lied to.

I know what it means to be bullied.

I know what it means to have people say they're your friends and deceive you.

I know what it means to be manipulated.

And I grew up experiencing it.

That's one of the reasons I hate this because this is exactly what that is.

It's not a bully in that sense, but it's a manifestation of the deception that goes on by

liars who take advantage of others.

And I have a very strong negative reaction to that.

I do not like it.

And so that's the way God has allowed me to be brought up.

And this stuff makes me mad because not only does it remind me

in some ways of those past things, because it brings people to hell.

And I don't want them to go there.

I don't want them to go there.

This is what Joseph Smith said.

God is in the still small voice and all of these affidavits, indictments, that is all of the devil, all of corruption, come

on, you prosecutors, you false swears.

All hell boil over.

You burning mountains roll down your lava for I will come out from the top at last.

I have more to boast of than ever any man had.

I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam.

A large majority of the whole have stood by me.

Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it.

I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.

The followers of Jesus ran away from him, but the Latter -day Saints never ran away from me yet.

History of the Church, volume six, page 408, 409.

I've quoted that a thousand times to Mormons.

That quote right there, a friend of mine, Charlie Spine, he's buying me listening.

He and I met at a Bible study.

I forgot how I got there, whatever.

I'd never seen this guy before.

He'd already been studying this stuff.

He came up to me and had this piece of paper in his hand, and he said, can I read you something?

I said, sure, I know who this guy is, whatever.

You're nice at a Bible study, you know, sure.

He's reading this to me.

I know who the guy is.

I ripped it out of his hand and crushed it.

I said, who said this?

Because it was a lie.

You don't boast you've done more than Jesus to keep a church together.

You don't do that.

It's an arrogant boast.

He goes, well, that's Joseph Smith.

And I said, well, who's that?

He said, well, that's the founder of Mormonism.

And I said, well, Mormons are Christians, but this guy isn't.

And he said, no, Mormons are not Christians.

I said, yes, they are.

He goes, no, they're not.

I go, yes, they are.

He goes, no, they're not.

I said, what do you mean?

And he started telling me what they teach.

You know, God from another planet, God is wife.

I went, what?

They don't teach that.

He goes, yes, they do.

You gotta be kidding me.

And that's what started me studying, that quote.

So Mormons who don't like me, you can thank Joseph Smith.

How about this one?

We've imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.

I will refute that idea, take away the veil so that you may see.

There are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple.

It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that we may

converse with him as one man converses with another and that he was once a man like us.

Yay, the God, the father of us all dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did.

And I will show it to you from the Bible.

You can't show me that God lived on another planet.

Guess who else teaches this?

Kenneth Copeland.

I'll be doing a whole series on the heretic teachers inside the Christian church in a few months.

It's just, it's moronic.

Check this out.

Hence the doctrine of the plurality of gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other doctrine.

It's all over the face of the Bible.

Paul says there are many gods and many lords.

Ripped right out of context out of 1 Corinthians 5, 8, 5.

It's just that they're called gods, it doesn't say they are.

And Galatians 4, 8, and 9, when you did not know God, you served by nature those which are not gods.

Anyway.

He says this at Trinity, paragraph 141.

I have always declared God to be a distinct personage.

Jesus Christ is separate and distinct personage from God the father.

And the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a spirit.

And these three constitute three distinct personages and three gods.

Three gods.

Joseph Smith taught three gods.

Okay.

Women, you should pay attention to this quote.

A question may be asked, will mothers have their children in eternity?

Yes, yes.

Mothers, you shall have your children.

Eternity is full of thrones upon which dwell thousands of children reigning on thrones of glory with not one

cubit added to their stature.

Come on now.

I could just see someone going to the church, listening to them talk and going, Martha, I think,

you've been sniffing some corn or something.

Cause this guy can't be, you know.

Well, people believe in them.

They're sincere.

They got a testimony.

He's got a book.

How about this?

I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United

States redress the wrongs committed upon the saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by our officers,

that in a few years, the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted.

And there'll be not so much as a potsherd left.

And what they say is that was the civil war.

That's what they say.

Now, you know, they can make it fit whatever they want.

Not many years.

Of course, he was killed in 1834.

And civil war wasn't for another 30 or so years.

Not many years.

Well, you can, you know, stretch that one if you want.

And be utterly overthrown and wasted.

Is that what happened?

Not what happened.

Utterly overthrown and wasted.

It's not what happened.

The North survived.

The South survived also.

They weren't utterly overthrown and utterly wasted.

They were destroyed, but they're still there.

But nevertheless, I love this one.

History of the Church, volume four, page 461.

I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth and the keystone of our

religion.

And a man would get near to God by abiding by his precepts than by any other book.

Now, I've already gone over, I believe earlier, a few weeks ago, on the changes of the Book of Mormon and the things not

found in the Book of Mormon that are essential in Mormon theology.

The Book of Mormon contradicts Mormon theology.

But it's the most correct book, even of the Bible.

Our happiness, that's what we're here for.

Your best life now.

Happiness is the object and design of our existence and will be the end thereof if we pursue the path that leads to

it.

And this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God.

You know what?

I think I'm gonna take this quote and put it in my preachers and teachers comment.

I'm gonna say, what do you guys think of this?

Yes, it's what we're here for, to be blessed.

So what's our greatest reason for being here?

To glorify God, Isaiah 43, verse seven.

God made us for his glory.

All right, the greatest responsibility in this world that God has laid upon us is to seek after our dead.

That means baptizing for the dead.

Our greatest responsibility here.

Let's get to Brigham Young.

There is not a man or woman who violates the covenants made with their God that will not require to pay the debt.

The blood of Christ will never wipe that out.

Your own blood must atone for it.

Hmm.

Murder and adultery are the ones.

And check this out, he said, he that confesses not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent

Joseph Smith with the fullness of the gospel to this generation is not of God, but is antichrist.

Joseph Smith was a liar, he was a fraud, he was a false prophet, and he is in hell right now.

He was the spirit of the antichrist.

And Brigham Young was the spirit of the antichrist.

And both of those men right now are in agony.

Agony.

Wishing they had never, ever done anything that they taught like this.

Because they're suffering.

Now, if any of you will deny the plurality of wives and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned.

We're all damned.

Of course, he gets revelations.

You know, later revelations precede or take precedence over earlier revelations.

Come on, man, don't you know that?

That's our principle in Mormonism.

Later revelation supersedes older revelation.

Well, then how do you know what you're believing now is true?

Because apparently he's contradicting himself.

And Brigham Young said, I don't know if I got this quote here, but he

said in a journal of discourses, volume 13, page 95, he said everything he said in the pulpit was equal to scripture.

Anyway, no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent

of Joseph Smith.

I'm gonna use this against Andrew.

Friend of ours, he's a dispensationalist.

I'm gonna do the guilt by association fallacy and have fun with it.

Hey, Andrew.

I'm gonna come in unless he's a dispensation.

He'll get a kick out of it.

Yeah, God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so world without end.

So that means he'll be learning forever.

That means the further back in time you go, the stupider he was.

I guess that's why he changes his mind so much.

Maybe that's why he changes his mind.

Cause you know, I wonder if you could hear the celestial God of Mormonism, you know, the forehead slap,

you know.

Of course, that's the God of open theism.

He's learning too.

Incidentally, I'm gonna be out in Denver the first week of December for debates

on open theism and Calvinism.

Anyway, I like this quote.

When the time came that his firstborn, the savior, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the father came himself and favored that

spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other men do it.

And no, the late Bruce McConkie, who was a member of the first council of the 70s, stated there is nothing

figurative about his paternity.

He was begotten, conceived and born in a normal and natural course of events.

Now, Mormons will tell you they don't officially teach this, but what they're saying is God the father had

sex with Mary, his spirit daughter.

Brigham Young said the birth of the savior was as natural as the births of our children.

It was the result of natural action.

He partook of flesh and blood, was begotten of his father as we are of our fathers.

Now remember, God the father, Mormonism, is about six feet tall, I'm six feet tall.

So he's six feet tall and he has genitalia and he's married to his goddess wife

in heaven and makes bird babies.

And so instead of letting together a man do it with Mary, this is what Brigham Young taught.

Mormons today will say, well, we don't accept that.

Okay, how about this?

Now here, oh, inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, saint and sinner.

When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, which I've been to in Missouri,

with the Mormon view of Garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body and brought Eve,

one of his wives with him.

He helped to make and organize this world.

He is Michael the archangel, the ancient of days, about whom holy men have written and spoken.

He is our father and our God and the only God with whom we have to do.

Every man upon the earth, whether they're professing Christians or not professing, must hear it and will know it sooner or later.

This is what Brigham Young said.

Now, come on, guys.

Obviously, the Mormons are gonna say, look, we don't go with that.

He was mistaken.

Brigham Young said, I say now, when they, his discourses, are copied and approved by me, they are as

good as scripture, as is couched in this Bible.

Now what are you gonna do?

Are you gonna tell me the prophet is no longer good?

Even though he said all these things, he said it was true.

But you get later revelation, right?

So your God is progressing in knowledge, which is why the revelations change.

So now we can see flat out, blatant contradictions that are taught.

So how do you know what you believe in is true?

Real simple.

What man or woman on earth, what spirit in the spirit world can say truthfully that I have never gave a wrong word of

counsel or a word of advice that could not be sanctioned by the heavens?

The success which has attended me in my presidency is owing to the blessings and mercy of the Almighty.

It's always corruption.

How about this?

We can go on for another 10 minutes.

I'm gonna finish reading some other stuff here.

You see, some classes of the human family are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable, and low

in their habits, wild and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed

upon mankind.

Cain slew his brother.

Cain might've been killed and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be.

And the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin.

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race?

If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the

penalty under the law of God is death on the spot.

This will always be so.

It's just insanity.

This is bigotry.

Prejudice is just ridiculous.

And yet there's lots of black people joining the Mormon church.

And they don't even know about a lot of this stuff.

The racism.

Bad news.

Just, yeah, sheesh.

Okay, let me go on.

Joseph Fielding, various quotes from various LDS authorities.

Joseph Fielding Smith, the 10th president.

Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith.

He was either a prophet of God, divinely called and properly appointed and commissioned, or he's one of the biggest frauds this world has

ever seen.

There's no middle ground.

Now he's correct.

He's a fraud.

Joseph F. Smith, sixth president, said this.

Now we are told in scripture that Jesus Christ is the one only begotten son of God in the flesh.

Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten?

I answer, just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father, Jesus is the only person who had our heavenly father as

the father of his body.

This, in 1972, this was taught.

Now remember, Mormons will say to me, well, Matt, these things aren't what we officially teach.

Really?

Why is the sixth president teaching it?

Doesn't he know what Mormonism really teaches?

The father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to

the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same.

This is the formula for damnation.

Let the reader hear.

You need to read Romans three, Romans four, and Romans five.

And Galatians three, Galatians four, Galatians five.

So Romans three, four, five, Galatians three, four, five.

Study those.

And you will see that what is being taught here about keeping the laws in order to be saved is damnable heresy.

If you're a Mormon, you believe in this, you're on your way to eternal damnation.

This is not mean name calling.

This is informing you.

This is the truth.

Joseph Smith was a liar.

Joseph Smith was a false prophet.

Joseph Smith was not to be trusted.

He was an occultist.

The first vision never occurred.

He is demonically oppressed, if not possessed.

What he's teaching is so far against scripture that the only way this could spread is if there's a

significant demonic influence behind it.

The reason I know this is because the Bible contradicts Mormonism flat out.

Oh, but the Bible can be trusted.

Exactly.

Satan said in Genesis three to Eve, did God really say?

Doubting the word of God.

You doubt the word of God, you alter the word of God, you contradict the word of God.

And that's exactly what's happening in Mormonism.

Herbert C. Kimball, office of the first presidency said this, does the earth conceive?

It does.

And it brings forth, if it did not, why do you go and put your wheat into the ground?

Does it not conceive it?

Where did the earth come from?

From its parent earths.

John Taylor, the third president said this, myself and hundreds of the elders around me have seen its Christianity

pump, parade, and glory.

Look who's talking.

And what is it?

It is a sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal.

It is as corrupt as hell.

The devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than Christianity of the 19th century.

There's no salvation outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints, Bruce McConkie.

A lot of Mormons don't believe that.

Now, this is good.

Interesting quotes from the book of articles of faith by James Talmadge.

He was a seventies quorum member.

I believe he was one of the 12 apostles, that's right.

Therefore, we know that both the father and the son are in form and stature, perfect men.

Each of them possesses a tangible body, infinitely pure and perfect and attended by transcendent glory,

nevertheless, a body of flesh and bones.

Page 38.

Let's look at page 422.

Hence the justice of the scriptural doctrine as salvation comes to the individual only through obedience.

That's page 81.

Salvation is attainable only through compliance with the laws and ordinances of the gospel.

Page 422.

There are some who have striven to obey all the divine commandments, who have accepted the testimony of Christ,

obeyed the laws and ordinances of the gospel and received the Holy Spirit.

These are they who have overcome evil by godly works and who are therefore entitled to the

highest glory.

Page 83.

Obviously this is demonic.

Now, just so you know, some of the apparitions in Catholicism of Mary say the

same thing.

The sectarian, sectarian, not godly, sectarian dogma of justification by faith

alone has exercised an influence for evil.

The idea upon which this pernicious doctrine was founded was at first associated with that of

absolute predestination by which man was foreordained to destruction or to an undeserved salvation.

Undeserved salvation.

You don't deserve my salvation, God.

I've been keeping the laws.

And so it's what's due to me.

The one who does not work, the one who works his wage is not credited as a favor, but what is due.

Romans 4 .4.

So, you know, I can see the Mormon going up to God, going, look, dish it over.

I've kept the laws.

I've denied myself of all ungodliness.

I've done everything I can do.

You owe me salvation, resurrection, exaltation.

The church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints proclaims against the incomprehensible God devoid of body, parts, or

passions as a thing impossible of existence.

On the contrary, it's the only way it is possible.

I can go through the logic of that sometime.

Those who have been born into God through obedience to the gospel may by valiant devotion

to righteousness obtain exaltation and even reach the status of godhood.

Adam said, blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression, my eyes were opened,

and in this life I shall have joy.

Whoa.

Now, folks, I was reading this.

And I was with my wife.

We're in a grocery store, and I have the duty of pushing the cart.

She fills the cart.

I push the cart.

It doesn't take much brain power.

I just go where she, you know, okay, go this way.

I got, she puts stuff in.

It gets harder, but I'm a man.

I can push the cart.

So I'm pushing the cart, and I got this book.

I'm reading while I am doing my husband duty.

And I'm reading through this, and I'm like, I stop.

And it hit me.

I said, only the ungodly celebrate sin.

Only the ungodly celebrate sin.

Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression, my eyes are opened, and in this life I

shall have joy.

See what good sin is?

Oh, it's good for you to sin and rebel against God.

Oh, blessed be God, because of my sin, my eyes are opened, and I'll have joy in this

life.

Does this make you want to carry a sign out in front of Mormon church on Sunday?

Ismormismchristian .com?

Continue reading on this.

Eve was glad and declared, were it not for our transgression, we never should have had seed, and never should have

known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

Folks, do you agree with me that this is Satan talking?

This is Satanism?

Is it?

How can you deny it?

Satan teaches them in the temple.

That's right, Satan teaches this stuff in the temple.

This is what their people are teaching, and they're going door to door, looking good.

Looking good, being sincere, and spreading the lies of the devil himself, and bringing people to

eternal damnation.

All right, let me see how much, oh, there's so much more.

What?

What?

I got a little bit more, so what we'll do is we'll stop here, because I got more to do.

I tried to, I thought I could get through it, but I can't.

Calm down, relax.

And I have kept it low key, hold on.

I kept it low key, and I can get rather obstreperous when it comes to heresy,

but God's made me this way.

So what we're gonna do, I'm gonna just pray, close, take a break, then we'll do Q and A, all right?

And anybody, YouTube, Facebook, here, if you want to ask any questions, please feel free.

Just write a question on a $5 bill, send it to me, everything will be fine.

All right, the higher denominations get more attention, and better answers.

Of course I'm joking, the Mormons, did you hear what he said?

Oh, all right, let's pray.

Lord Jesus, thank you for this time, and Lord, thank you for light.

Light by which we can walk into a dark room and see what is before us, see the dangers before us, see

what might injure us.

You provide us light.

We see the dangers of these lies, the teachings of the devil himself,

the teachings that are absorbed by these poor people, these poor

people, Lord, who have believed a lie and fed their own egos

and have let the fruit of this deception produce a poisonous result

that will kill them, bring them into eternal damnation.

Lord Jesus, would you please bind the spirit of Mormonism?

Stop it.

May all the Mormon wards, all the Mormon chapels, may they just become empty.

Better yet, Lord, would you please just work through them and change them into true Christians

that would be willing to do what the true Christians are already supposed to be doing?

Lord, thank you for this time, and thank you for the opportunity to speak and to teach.

And Lord, I just ask that you bless this time and the hearers who hear

from now and as long as they can that it would bring glory to you

and that it would be used by you to bring people out of the false group of Mormonism and into the

truth of who Jesus is.

We ask this, Lord Jesus, in your precious name.

Amen.