April 14, 2020 Show with Dr. Curt Daniel on “The History & Theology of Calvinism” (Part 2)

The Meaning of Calvinism and Hyper-Calvinism

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And I'm thrilled to be having part two of a discussion that we began two weeks ago, on Thursday the 2nd of April, to be more precise. We had part one of this discussion then, and we are now entering into part two of our discussion on the history and theology of Calvinism, which is a monumental 900-page new hardback by Evangelical Press, written by my guest today, Dr. Kurt Daniel.

And Dr. Kurt Daniel is senior pastor of the Faith Bible Church in Springfield, Illinois. He's a graduate of Central Bible College, where he received his Bachelor of Arts, Fuller Theological Seminary, where he received his Master of Divinity, and the University of Edinburgh, where he received his doctorate, his Ph .D.

He is currently writing books on The Deity of Christ, The Extent of the Atonement, Hyper-Calvinism, Jonathan Edwards, Biblical Apologetics, and A Large History of Reformed Theology. And I want to interview him on each and every one of those books, because he's already proven himself to be a fascinating and edifying and educational and superb guest.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back for part two of the History and Theology of Calvinism, Dr. Kurt Daniel.

Thank you, Chris. Good to be back.

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Well, before we go into our discussion on part two of the History and Theology of Calvinism, tell our listeners who did not hear your first interview about Faith Bible Church of Springfield, Illinois.

Thank you, Chris, I've been here for 25 years.

And the website is faithbibleonline .net, faithbibleonline .net, and I hope to remember to repeat that information later on. Well, for those of you who are listening who want to have an idea, a more in-depth understanding of the subject that we are discussing today, I would urge you after this live broadcast is over to go to the archive at ironsharpensironradio .com, that's Past Shows Podcast.

Click on that and type in the search engine Kurt Daniel, and that is C-U-R-T, Daniel, and that interview will come up, and you can listen for part one where we get involved in the theology of this discussion, and not to say that we are not going to continue on theological aspects today, but in case you are wondering what you've missed when you hear our discussion today, that will be found in part one of the History and Theology of Calvinism interview that we conducted on Thursday, the 2nd of April.

But perhaps it would be wise of us to at least do a recap on a summary, if you could, for those of our listeners who still do not understand Calvinism, and even though the bulk of my listeners I'm sure are Calvinist, I do have listeners that are new Christians, and some who are not even Christians at all, some who are Muslims and members of cults, and we have Roman Catholic listeners, and others, so why don't you, in summary form, which I know is very hard to do, explain what Calvinism is, and perhaps even contrast it with Hyper-Calvinism as briefly as you can.

Okay, let's say the theology, for Anglicans, congregationalists, I guess you could be Hyper-Calvinist, but on the other side, it usually teaches four-point Calvinism, usually. The five points of Calvinism, total depravity, those are generally...

God’s Decretive Will and His Revealed Will

That's very good, and let me ask you a question about something that you listed among those things, you spoke of Hyper-Calvinists being those that object to a notion that God in any way desires the salvation of those outside of the number of his elect that he has chosen before the foundation of the world.

Now one thing about that that can be difficult for me to understand is we may have a wrong understanding, and I'm sure you would think this is a wrong understanding of that, that God, like many of those outside of Reformed theology, have a false notion, a diminished notion of God, that he is in heaven filled with anxiety, wringing his hands, pacing back and forth, wanting every single human to come to him and be saved with an equal passion and an equal desire, and he is really going to be eternally frustrated and disappointed because in reality that hope of his is going to fail miserably in the end because, as you and I believe, although there will be more elect in heaven than the stars that are in the heavens and the grains of sand and so forth, but at the same time we will still be a minority in contrast to the population of the earth since Eden 6 ,000 years ago.

So how would you explain this without giving an idea that God is going to be eternally frustrated and disappointed, and even, dare I say, that Christ's mission on the cross, if indeed, and I know you don't believe he intended to save every individual that has ever lived and whoever will live, but those outside our communion do believe that, that that work on the cross was actually in many ways a horrible failure?

Well the Bible addresses all this, getting back to the, he doesn't have, we have to balance two things about God that are both in the scriptures. Number one, that God foreordained everything that comes, predestined everything, and called that his purpose.

Also the Bible teaches that there's the revealed will of God, usually disobey him. That's a difference in predestination. God, in this sense, desires everybody that hears the gospel to be saved, to believe.

Also that he desires others to be saved as they hear the gospel. We're called that revealed to be a few, we have to keep them in balance, and what God has put together, let no, rejecting the free offer of the gospel, impinges on the general love that God has for all people, which is taught repeatedly in scripture, that God has a love for creatures, even though they're, that's going to impinge on, in chapter 8 for.

Them. And would you say that, that Christ's death, which you agree with historic Calvinism, was salvificly only intended for the elect? Would you, would you believe that the death, the atoning death, the act of redemption on Calvary's cross, that Christ perfectly accomplished, had benefits for those outside of the elect that are not directly involving salvation, and if you could explain some of those benefits and blessings that the non-elect receives from this death, because sometimes we may look at the death of Christ and solely and only look at it as a work of redeeming his people from their sins, but if you could explain a little bit further.

Usually you, death of Christ is sufficient for all, but it's efficient, or said it's sufficient if God had elected, created this world, but it would be sufficient for an infinite number, why? Because the life, the body, the value, 1 Peter 1, talks about the precious, because Jesus is, it's also intended, not exclusively, there are some non-salvation benefits for all people.

Usually would say, all people, a delay of judgment, for example, the fact that we're not in hell is a magic beauty, for the gospel, all of these are general benefits that they do not guarantee salvation, but they point toward salvation, as it were, they say these are enticements, why a person, infinite value, and so much flows from it, it's in the,.

One of the things that I wanted to have you do today is cut through the fiction, the myths and legends and even slanders of John Calvin that are perpetuated even to this day. It seems that those who are outside of the doctrines of grace, the vast majority, even in the apologetic world, those who are involved in writing books and speaking at conferences and having videos filmed and all kinds of things to promote their agenda, even if they're highly educated, very often these people, and I'm not saying all of them, but very often, they have never really read or studied John Calvin himself, they've never read the Institutes of Religion, they've never read the Puritans, they've never fully read Charles Sadden Spurgeon, they only read of him selectively when he is speaking things that ring true to their own preconceived understanding of theology, and they only really study Calvinism from the writings and the videos and the conferences of Calvinism's enemies, and they perpetuate the caricatures and the slanders that have been developed.

Now, you and I know that he was far from a perfect individual, and we both agree that it was wrong for him to consent to the execution of Michael Servetus, Miguel Servito, he's also called, and that even though Servetus was certainly a heretic, who in some senses was asking for it, as they say, because he kept returning to Geneva even though he was warned to declare his heresies, and even to declare that John Calvin was a heretic, and his chief goals were to have people in Geneva repent of their view of infant baptism, which you and I do reject also being baptized, but perhaps more primarily, his rejection of the Trinity was primarily in mind in the Genevan authorities when they executed him, against Calvin's will, by burning him alive.

But if you could, let's start with that John Calvin executed Michael Servetus, he did no such thing, am I correct?

That's correct. That's usually the case. It's an illegitimate argument. It would not pass on logic. Number one, it's an ad hominem argument. If you believe in it, Calvin, it's a pure argument, and not just because you can find weaknesses in all Christian inquisition, there's actually no freedom in Switzerland where you will be dealt with, you should be executed, executioner, beheading, even amongst Calvin's execution.

We'd want to throw it back to people and say, now, what should have been done? Should nothing have been done? Then the peace of Geneva would have been like a guest coming into your house, you teach them.

A family dog would say, you're not welcome here anymore. Use that incident of the Trinity as a summary of the situation.

And from what I understand, in that regard, to the execution of Servetus, the main flaw with Calvin is that he did not protest the execution itself, he consented to it, he agreed with it, he only protested the manner with which Servetus was executed.

Yes, it gets back to, and this was universal politics, they had to be subsequent non-Calvinists, but Calvinists came to, let me also add this, Chris, it's easy for people with very little knowledge of the actual situation to act like a Monday morning quarterback and judge it without realizing what we call the system, to say, now, what would you have done back then, knowing only what they knew then, not what you know today.

Nevertheless, it wasn't unfortunate.

Now, how many people are you aware of, how many heretics were executed in Geneva when Calvin was there?

I haven't looked into that, but Servetus wasn't the only person, but I'm not an authority on that.

Yeah, one of the reasons I brought it up is that people beyond their knowledge have accused him of being involved in rampant executions, that there were many, many, many executions and so on, and I had never heard of actually any but Servetus, but as you just pointed out, there was at least one other or several others.

Well, there were some, but again, you cannot dismiss that, you could give a long catalog of the weakness of so many famous preachers. That would be an ad homin argument, that's an illegitimate charge.

And the religious world in general, all over the globe at that time, were executing its theological enemies, unfortunately and tragically.

Well, in various ways, and it wasn't just the Catholic countries, even the Netherlands, many of the Anabaptists, the Sibson Laban then was, it hadn't fully developed to legitimately and biblically deal with others that was gradually developing, and partly due to the rurch.

And of course, even the Anabaptists, although they were typically not involved in executing anyone such as heretics, they are not guiltless when it comes to a desire for violence amongst some of them, because there were some who wanted to overthrow the German government through violence, am I right?

Well, most of the Anabaptists today are direct descendants of the Anabaptists. Yes, and that's another thing that we should be reminded of, is that the Anabaptists, that.

Word, all's it means is re-baptize, or those that re-baptize, and it is a wide spectrum of folks that should not be broad-brushed. And we have to go to our first break. In fact, I'm going to read you a question from one of our listeners before we go to the break, and you can answer it when we return from the break.

I usually only give the first name of an individual who writes in in their city and state of residence, but since this is someone who operates a parachurch ministry, who I know personally, and I've interviewed him, I'll give you his full name.

Phil Sessa, who is the founder of Soul Fishing Ministries, and Soul Fishing is one word, S-O-U-L, Fishing Ministries, in Queens, New York. And he asks a few questions, but I'll start with the first before the break.

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And if you could answer that when we come back from the break. If anybody else wants to join us, the email is chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at gmail .com. Don't go away. We'll be right back with Kurt Daniel and more on the history and theology of Calvinism right after these messages.

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And we are discussing part two of the history and theology of Calvinism. We began this discussion two weeks ago on Thursday, the 2nd of April, and this is part two of the discussion. And if you have a question, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com.

Chrisarnzen at gmail .com. Phil Cessa, the founder of Soul Fishing Ministries, wanted you to explain the difference between the revealed will of God and the decree of God. Uh, and, uh, as I mentioned earlier, I have also heard the revealed will of God described as the prescribed will of God.

Okay. See if I can answer. Bible people. God condescends to our ignorance. Driving it into the nation. It's secret only insofar as we don't know all the details until revealed will be 2929. The secret things belong to the Lord our God.

Those that are revealed come in balance because it's easy to throw out one because you hold ample, usually hold secret will of God. I per Calvinist tend to do the other way around. That would be like saying, well, we don't believe Jesus is both God and man.

We know he's man. So we don't believe he's got the same thing with the revealed and secret will of God. Probably better to call it the secret will of God would be his. On the other hand, it will be doesn't always come to it includes his gospel.

People usually don't believe. So those are some of the, and everything that that's his secret. Well, that would be not his intention, but his desire. He desires the issue, how they're both true and the vacation.

On the other hand, so you see, you go back and forth between the two of them.

Right.

Well, for a short answer.

Well, in some sense, it was revealed that he'd be murdered because it was prophesied in the old Testament, but it wasn't, it wasn't taught as something that was a good and wonderful and obedient thing to do.

Yeah.

The love of commandment is not thou shalt murder the Messiah. The Jews were clearly wrong. Judas was wrong. It had been foreordained that Judas betrayed Jesus, but Judas was certainly guilty. We have to keep both of these in balance.

We can't use one.

Yeah. Another example of this duality is in second Samuel. I believe it's chapter 13 when Nathan, the prophet approaches David after his wicked acts of adultery and murder having committed adultery with Bathsheba and having murdered her husband, Uriah the Hittite to cover it up.

And, uh, after he gives his little story about the lamb being, uh, murdered and cooked and eaten, he, he, uh, tells David that he is the one that has done this. And when he is declaring the things that God will do as a form of chastisement to David, he includes in there that he will rise up evil in his house and also that his wives will sleep with his neighbor in the sight of all of Israel, which obviously is adultery.

Both of those things, uh, the, the rising up of evil and committing of adultery are wicked acts, damnable acts that God commands us not to do. And yet he decreed that they would happen.

We can never use one as an example. I send like David, uh, but God foreordained it to that person. I would issue this rebuke.

Yes.

And God also foreordained that he would, that's right. We have to deal with this whole question in a very humble ever charging God with.

And by the way, I was one chapter off. I apologize. I have referred to this passage many, many times. And I'm shocked that I said a second Samuel 13 and second Samuel 12. I apologize there. Um, but, uh, Phil has, uh, another question.

One of them you already, uh, addressed. Uh, another one, I'm not sure you want to go on this rabbit trail cause it's a huge subject, but he was wanting, he wanted to know if you could explain the difference between Molinism and Calvinism.

I don't know if you would like to give a very brief summary of the differences or not, because it's a, a really huge issue.

Briefly. Molinism takes us from the end of the, but head to that in the middle age would have done under certain and even Thomas ordained everything God chose, rejected that the day tries, believe it or not.

It actually opens the door to this open theism idea that says, uh, God does not know everything. God does not know the future. You could say God, because God has foreordained everything and God doesn't foreordain on the basis of what he sees is going to happen anyway, anyway, because God foreordained it.

God is also.

Well, I'm sure, I'm sure that, uh, William Wayne Craig and the majority, if not all Molinists would not agree that their theology leads to open theism, even though I agree with you that it is a logical progression.

And in fact,.

Arminius developed a form of, uh, Molinas. I would also give them their credit. Many Arminians, that was a heresy flow. Few people still believe it today. Others hardly the most. This has other, uh.

Right. And, uh, the consistency with Arminianism leading to open theism is revealed in the quite a number of open theists describe themselves as consistent Arminians.

Uh, do we have another question?

Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to allow, uh, Phil to be a question glutton with one more question because it's very apropos for what we're going on, what's going on right now. Can you explain Calvin's theology in light of the black plague and the sovereignty of God and how one would apply that theology presently to the coronavirus?

God foreordains everything. That's predestination. God governs all through him. God uses even those. One of the daughters of evil, or as Augustine said, he would not have foreordained these bad things if he 28.

God causes all things to work. God has ultimate purposes, even through this coronavirus. One of them is that it might bring some people to seek salvation in Christ. If they are on a death bed, afraid to die.

All things like this should be a wake-up call to people. Repent, prepare to meet your God, believe him.

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Chris Sorensen, host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio here. I want to tell you about a man I have personally known for many years. His name is Dan Buttafuoco. Dan is a personal injury and medical malpractice lawyer, but not the type that typically comes to mind.

Dan cares about people and is a theologian himself. Recently, he wrote a book titled Consider the Evidence for the Bible. Ravi Zacharias wrote the foreword. Dan also has a master's degree in theology.

Dan handles serious injury and medical malpractice cases in all 50 states. He represents many Christians in serious injury matters all over the country. Dan is an exceptional trial lawyer. He wrote the test for the National Board of Trial Advocacy, and currently his firm has over 100 cases that have settled for $1 million or more, and in approximately 10 different states.

In Illinois, his lawyers had the fourth largest settlement in the state's history. In New York, his case involving a paralyzed police officer made the front page of the.

Law journal.

If you have a serious personal injury or medical malpractice claim in any state, I recommend that you call Dan. Consultations are free. There is no fee unless you win. Dan Buttafuoco's number is 1 -800 -669 -4878.

1 -800 -669 -4878. Or email me for Dan's contact information at chrisarnson at gmail dot com. That's chrisarnson at gmail dot com.