Could the Old Testament Saints Have Used Presuppositional Apologetics?

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If you put yourself in the position of an Old Testament saint who was arguing, trying to argue persuasively for the existence of God, who doesn't have a revelation to point to, would you be able to still do it with the apologetic method?

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How could you say that an Old Testament saint wouldn't have a revelation to point to? You just said he's an Old Testament saint.

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He has the Old Testament. A person living in the time before the

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New Testament was written, just say during the time of Moses, but he's not living right with the people where God's there with the pillar of fire.

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He's in Greece somewhere. The same defense that would be used by the New Testament saint would be used by the

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Old Testament saint, and the extent of what they are defending as their worldview would change depending on increased revelation.

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But the same approach to defending it would be there, yes. That isn't to say the New Testament's unnecessary then.

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What's it to say is, as God gives further revelation, the same apologetic procedure applies. The Old Testament saint would end up defending, and he's at a disadvantage, he's defending his anticipation of God fulfilling the promise of a

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Messiah coming. Because that's part of the Old Testament. Sure. Okay, so in a sense he's saying

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God has never broken his word, I trust him, he has promised the following. The New Testament saint has more, and is in a different situation.

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Now we're looking back and defending God kept his word and Jesus is the Messiah. Right, but you have no self -revelation of God necessarily to point to except for God came to this prophet that I know and told him.

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The self -revelation of God in the Old Testament is exactly what we have, and the only thing

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I think you would be talking about is the time it takes to have it recorded in writing. Right? Right, because isn't that part of our major fault there?

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Because we have the Bible that's inspired, 100 % inspired, infallible, you cannot add to it, you cannot take away from it.

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Yeah, but what I'm defending of course is the content of the Bible. I'm not just defending a book as a book, like it fell out of heaven.

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It had the oracle edition. Yeah, well they had revelation in writing too. I mean, Jeremiah prophesied and it was written down.

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Didn't God create himself only for the Jews to hand out his oracles? Well, no, actually

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I think there was revelation outside, but for the most part the oracles of God were consigned to the

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Jews. I think, for instance, Job was not a Jew. That's controversial, some people would disagree, but I think that's evidence of revelation of God outside of the chosen line.

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Jonah went to Nineveh with a revelation of God. So there was a minimal revelation there. And of course, all men have the revelation of God through nature and history, totally apart from special revelation that is later recorded in writing.