February 22, 2021 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “How to Read the Bible Biblically” (Part 2)
February 22, 2021
Dr. JOE MORECRAFT, author & pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, GA, who will address:
PART 2 of “HOW to READ the BIBLE BIBLICALLY”
Transcript
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I am so thrilled to have back on the show today to discuss part two of a
subject that we began a number of weeks ago.
I am speaking of Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III.
Actually, we began this conversation with him on February 9th.
And this is part two of a discussion on a book that is soon to be brought back into print,
How to Read the Bible Biblically.
Dr. Moorcraft is an author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back again to Iron Sherpa and Sign Radio, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft.
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Well, as we always do, Dr. Mark Raff, for the sake of those who are hearing you
for the first time especially and do not know anything about Heritage Presbyterian Church of Cumming,
Georgia, why don't you let our listeners know something about that congregation?
Our church is a small church about...
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Well, Dr. Morecraft, we already covered in part one of this discussion on February 9th
some primary things involving a discussion on how to read the Bible
biblically.
We addressed how, when reading the Bible, we have to determine what kind of
literature this particular section we might be reading is.
We discussed how to interpret prophecy biblically.
We addressed the importance of the historical grammatical hermeneutics
or hermeneutical approach to interpreting Scripture.
We delved into a bit of what at least at
the very beginning may appear to be baffling and bizarre imagery in the
Book of Revelation and how we are to interpret those things.
We addressed the different kinds of literalism that we
must have in mind when we read the Scripture and
that nobody really has a wooden literal interpretation of the entire Bible, even though they might claim
to interpret the Bible in its entirety literally.
What they mean by that is not necessarily what one might automatically think.
If you take that sentence literally, nobody interprets the Bible that way,
not even the most hardcore of fundamentalist dispensationalists do.
But if you could, why
don't you do a summary of some of the most important things that we already addressed, and then we'll move on to new
uncharted territory in this discussion.
Sure.
I think last time we talked about the principles of interpretation,
grammatical, historical, hermeneutic, that is.
You've got to know what
verbs are.
In fact, just like a realtor, any good realtor, knows that the
value of a home and property are determined by location, location, location.
That's a common phrase that people being trained in the realty field and also those
who are buying or selling a house are educated about.
Location, location, location determines the value, and that's how we determine
what a Scripture is actually saying, and you might even rephrase that context,
context, context.
That's exactly
right.
People
say,
well,
here's
my
verse
for today.
It's
just a
collection
of
verses
taken
from
the
Bible,
and
so when
you
go
to
the
Bible
and
so
understand...
We already have a listener who has a question.
We have CJ in Lyndonhurst, Long Island, New York, who asks,
I have heard different people say that we who are believers in sola
scriptura, that the Scriptures are our sole, infallible, and inerrant authority over
the Church, are inconsistent because we believe things like the historical
grammatical approach to Scripture and sola scriptura itself, which are concepts not clearly spelled
out in the Bible.
How do you respond to people that make such accusations?
Well, I would say they are.
That is their main argument.
They think that is our primary Achilles' heel.
That was the last word of the debate that Greg Bonson had with Jerry Matytix
when they were debating over sola scriptura.
That was the last word of the debate.
And the way that we should counter -argue or
defend that practice as not being in contradiction to sola scriptura
is that the Bible clearly teaches that
teachers are required in the Church, and that not everybody even was qualified to be a teacher.
So therefore, there is nothing inconsistent with gathering to yourself
teachers that are living and dead, and comparing them with
each other, and most of all, as a Berean, comparing what they have to say to what the Scripture
teaches.
And that's the key, is that we don't use only the Bible to
understand the Bible, but we have to judge what teachers are saying according to the Bible.
Exactly correct.
And the comparison of the two views have often been described as the
difference between sola scriptura, which is a correct
view of Scripture, that the Scriptures are indeed, as the listener said, the sole infallible and inerrant
authority over the Church.
But what is wrong is sola scriptura, thinking so highly of ourselves
that all we need is our own mind, the Bible, and a quiet place to read it.
Well, that goes with
the denigration of the Church.
The KJV and an AK -47.
Yes, that's exactly correct.
We have to go to our first break right now, and by the way, when we come back, I'd like you to let our listeners know what that best
book that you've seen in print in regard to the historical grammatical interpretation,
I believe you said it was about, that a young author wrote it.
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This is part two of a discussion we began on February 9th.
This is part two of the discussion, How to Read the Bible Biblically.
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We do have another listener.
We have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, who says, the
verses that you were discussing before to teach Sola Scriptura, in your opinion,
were written during a day when the canon was not even closed yet.
How do we use these scriptures as defenses for Sola Scriptura?
And
of
course,
the
66 books, that number is not taught in the Bible.
That just happened to be, providentially, what came about.
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But do you have any other way of...
Well, I'm sure...
Going back to the concept of something that you hinted at
before, I know that this is a key part of your entire
interpretation of Scripture, and it is very important in regard to the lenses
through which we view Scripture, and that is something known as presuppositionalism.
If you could please explain that.
Yes, sir.
And
I'm so
glad
that
you are one
of the
promoters
of a
publisher.
That keeps this program on the air, and that is the publishers of the New American Standard Bible.
And by
the
way,
folks,
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was not
planned,.
But I might as well take advantage of this since...
Yeah, you might as well.
Yes, there are even some King James onlyists who prefer to call it the authorized version.
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Now, you know what's funny?
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their
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Yes,
in
fact...
I've been trying to get him to...
Yes, well, we
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Let's get more involved into the details of since you believe this is such an important aspect of reading the bible
biblically tell us more about why presuppositionalism is so important.
Those
are
the
new
test
information that
and in modern day
and the words only
the word of god
all today.
Well that was just paul
and i would have my charismatic brothers come and to make prophecies that i was going to win.
Amen.
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presidency in a consecutive four -year term.
Not not in four years from now.
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But you might find that interesting to to listen to those two programs.
We have an anonymous listener who says dr moorcraft some of my closest
friends are king james only advocates.
Some of what you are saying seems like it falls into line with exactly what king
james only is believed.
Especially those from the peculiar sect amongst them that
believes that the bible was actually re -inspired in 1611 and that god actually
used those anglican translators in a supernatural and
perfect way to give us a perfect translation.
I don't believe that's what you are saying at all since you are not a king james onlyist but how can you say that
we have every word that is definitely from god's own breath in
modern translations if these translators themselves were not divinely inspired.
That's
right.
That's what peter ruffman taught and now his.
I mean that's pathetic.
Yeah i ruffman i read him i mean that is absolutely
does it say.
And isn't your belief and the belief of the vast majority of
reformed scholars and even those outside of the reformed faith but the vast majority of biblical
scholars believe the best way to
defend the inerrancy of scriptures is by sheer virtue
of the fact that we can consult many different translations and that's the
way we can be further assured that when we do a comparative bible
study that we are hearing and reading the very words of god
that were originally intended.
Yes sir i'll give you the.
Example
brooker prague caught in adultery.
Yes sir i'll preach on that sunday on
the gospel
of john so every sunday i'm going to
jane and calvin and i'll
tap in the phone and take the.
That's why many people should be very careful and i've heard this many times that their
favorite bible verse of all is the story of the woman caught in adultery which.
Well that's a great story.
Right so do i but to say that it's your favorite bible verse is.
And
i want to
make
sure.
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We're going to go to our final break.
It's going to be much more brief than the last breaks.
If you have a question that you'd like to ask please send it in quickly because we're rapidly running out of time.
It's chris arnson at gmail dot com.
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interview and Dr. Moorcraft I'd like you to have approximately four minutes or so
to summarize what you really want etched most in the hearts and minds of our listeners today about this very important
topic of how to read your bible biblically.
Well we've been talking about
presupposition
established
with his people
do test but how.
How do you take the truths that you just unfolded and declared and
prevent yourself from falling into the heresy.
In fact it's so serious it's a damnable heresy and the apostle paul
had some very serious words against it the heresy known as Judaizing.
Oh it is.
It's
the old
testament.
Yeah
the
rabbinical
judaism.
Is a very there's a very clear reflection of rabbinical judaism in the roman
catholic church isn't it.
Because rabbinical judaism which actually carries on to this very day upholds the talmud.
The extra canonical uncanonical books
that were written purely from the thoughts of rabbis
that were not prophets of old they were not being divinely inspired as the other
authors or as should i say as the authors of the hebrew scriptures.
And even modern day judaism no matter how strict it may be puts far too
much emphasis on these non -canonical teachings which is the same as the church of rome.
They put so much emphasis on tradition that they wind up teaching as dogma things that are
absolute heresy.
I had a jewish rabbi tell me and this is.
Amen.
In fact an israeli who you may have heard of he's a reformed baptist israeli
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israel.
But baruch moez actually wrote a book called judaism is not jewish.
Oh that's good.
But going back to that that point one more time to further clarify how do you prevent
from importing into the new testament things like the insistence upon
circumcision which was a requirement not for salvation in the old covenant
as many people wrongly believe but it was essential to be connected with the nation of israel.
And there are those heretics even today they may be a minority but there are
some messianic groups that are heretical that take that to the extreme of saying that the church needs to do that
today.
They may say it's not to be saved but they would say you need to do it to be a christian or to be identified
with the the people of yeshua.
Well this would be the difference
between
a new
testament.
Well there you have an example of the fact that chris arnzen does not only interview people that
he agrees 100 percent with.
There you go.
Because as as joe knows i am a reformed baptist so we do disagree on that issue but i want to thank you for
doing such a superb job today.
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I want to thank you so much dr morecraft for being my guest.
I want to thank everybody who listened and i want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that jesus christ is a far
greater savior than you are a sinner.