February 22, 2021 Show with Dr. Joe Morecraft on “How to Read the Bible Biblically” (Part 2)

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I am speaking of Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III.

Actually, we began this conversation with him on February 9th.

And this is part two of a discussion on a book that is soon to be brought back into print,

How to Read the Bible Biblically.

Dr. Moorcraft is an author and pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back again to Iron Sherpa and Sign Radio, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft.

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Well, Dr. Morecraft, we already covered in part one of this discussion on February 9th

some primary things involving a discussion on how to read the Bible

biblically.

We addressed how, when reading the Bible, we have to determine what kind of

literature this particular section we might be reading is.

We discussed how to interpret prophecy biblically.

We addressed the importance of the historical grammatical hermeneutics

or hermeneutical approach to interpreting Scripture.

We delved into a bit of what at least at

the very beginning may appear to be baffling and bizarre imagery in the

Book of Revelation and how we are to interpret those things.

We addressed the different kinds of literalism that we

must have in mind when we read the Scripture and

that nobody really has a wooden literal interpretation of the entire Bible, even though they might claim

to interpret the Bible in its entirety literally.

What they mean by that is not necessarily what one might automatically think.

If you take that sentence literally, nobody interprets the Bible that way,

not even the most hardcore of fundamentalist dispensationalists do.

But if you could, why

don't you do a summary of some of the most important things that we already addressed, and then we'll move on to new

uncharted territory in this discussion.

Sure.

I think last time we talked about the principles of interpretation,

grammatical, historical, hermeneutic, that is.

You've got to know what

verbs are.

In fact, just like a realtor, any good realtor, knows that the

value of a home and property are determined by location, location, location.

That's a common phrase that people being trained in the realty field and also those

who are buying or selling a house are educated about.

Location, location, location determines the value, and that's how we determine

what a Scripture is actually saying, and you might even rephrase that context,

context, context.

That's exactly

right.

People

say,

well,

here's

my

verse

for today.

It's

just a

collection

of

verses

taken

from

the

Bible,

and

so when

you

go

to

the

Bible

and

so

understand...

We already have a listener who has a question.

We have CJ in Lyndonhurst, Long Island, New York, who asks,

I have heard different people say that we who are believers in sola

scriptura, that the Scriptures are our sole, infallible, and inerrant authority over

the Church, are inconsistent because we believe things like the historical

grammatical approach to Scripture and sola scriptura itself, which are concepts not clearly spelled

out in the Bible.

How do you respond to people that make such accusations?

Well, I would say they are.

That is their main argument.

They think that is our primary Achilles' heel.

That was the last word of the debate that Greg Bonson had with Jerry Matytix

when they were debating over sola scriptura.

That was the last word of the debate.

And the way that we should counter -argue or

defend that practice as not being in contradiction to sola scriptura

is that the Bible clearly teaches that

teachers are required in the Church, and that not everybody even was qualified to be a teacher.

So therefore, there is nothing inconsistent with gathering to yourself

teachers that are living and dead, and comparing them with

each other, and most of all, as a Berean, comparing what they have to say to what the Scripture

teaches.

And that's the key, is that we don't use only the Bible to

understand the Bible, but we have to judge what teachers are saying according to the Bible.

Exactly correct.

And the comparison of the two views have often been described as the

difference between sola scriptura, which is a correct

view of Scripture, that the Scriptures are indeed, as the listener said, the sole infallible and inerrant

authority over the Church.

But what is wrong is sola scriptura, thinking so highly of ourselves

that all we need is our own mind, the Bible, and a quiet place to read it.

Well, that goes with

the denigration of the Church.

The KJV and an AK -47.

Yes, that's exactly correct.

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book that you've seen in print in regard to the historical grammatical interpretation,

I believe you said it was about, that a young author wrote it.

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This is part two of a discussion we began on February 9th.

This is part two of the discussion, How to Read the Bible Biblically.

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How do we use these scriptures as defenses for Sola Scriptura?

And

of

course,

the

66 books, that number is not taught in the Bible.

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But do you have any other way of...

Well, I'm sure...

Going back to the concept of something that you hinted at

before, I know that this is a key part of your entire

interpretation of Scripture, and it is very important in regard to the lenses

through which we view Scripture, and that is something known as presuppositionalism.

If you could please explain that.

Yes, sir.

And

I'm so

glad

that

you are one

of the

promoters

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publisher.

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the

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folks,

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Yes,

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I've been trying to get him to...

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Let's get more involved into the details of since you believe this is such an important aspect of reading the bible

biblically tell us more about why presuppositionalism is so important.

Those

are

the

new

test

information that

and in modern day

and the words only

the word of god

all today.

Well that was just paul

and i would have my charismatic brothers come and to make prophecies that i was going to win.

Amen.

By the way folks after the show is over you might want to look up in the irontrepanzionradio .com

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presidency in a consecutive four -year term.

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We have an anonymous listener who says dr moorcraft some of my closest

friends are king james only advocates.

Some of what you are saying seems like it falls into line with exactly what king

james only is believed.

Especially those from the peculiar sect amongst them that

believes that the bible was actually re -inspired in 1611 and that god actually

used those anglican translators in a supernatural and

perfect way to give us a perfect translation.

I don't believe that's what you are saying at all since you are not a king james onlyist but how can you say that

we have every word that is definitely from god's own breath in

modern translations if these translators themselves were not divinely inspired.

That's

right.

That's what peter ruffman taught and now his.

I mean that's pathetic.

Yeah i ruffman i read him i mean that is absolutely

does it say.

And isn't your belief and the belief of the vast majority of

reformed scholars and even those outside of the reformed faith but the vast majority of biblical

scholars believe the best way to

defend the inerrancy of scriptures is by sheer virtue

of the fact that we can consult many different translations and that's the

way we can be further assured that when we do a comparative bible

study that we are hearing and reading the very words of god

that were originally intended.

Yes sir i'll give you the.

Example

brooker prague caught in adultery.

Yes sir i'll preach on that sunday on

the gospel

of john so every sunday i'm going to

jane and calvin and i'll

tap in the phone and take the.

That's why many people should be very careful and i've heard this many times that their

favorite bible verse of all is the story of the woman caught in adultery which.

Well that's a great story.

Right so do i but to say that it's your favorite bible verse is.

And

i want to

make

sure.

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We're going to go to our final break.

It's going to be much more brief than the last breaks.

If you have a question that you'd like to ask please send it in quickly because we're rapidly running out of time.

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topic of how to read your bible biblically.

Well we've been talking about

presupposition

established

with his people

do test but how.

How do you take the truths that you just unfolded and declared and

prevent yourself from falling into the heresy.

In fact it's so serious it's a damnable heresy and the apostle paul

had some very serious words against it the heresy known as Judaizing.

Oh it is.

It's

the old

testament.

Yeah

the

rabbinical

judaism.

Is a very there's a very clear reflection of rabbinical judaism in the roman

catholic church isn't it.

Because rabbinical judaism which actually carries on to this very day upholds the talmud.

The extra canonical uncanonical books

that were written purely from the thoughts of rabbis

that were not prophets of old they were not being divinely inspired as the other

authors or as should i say as the authors of the hebrew scriptures.

And even modern day judaism no matter how strict it may be puts far too

much emphasis on these non -canonical teachings which is the same as the church of rome.

They put so much emphasis on tradition that they wind up teaching as dogma things that are

absolute heresy.

I had a jewish rabbi tell me and this is.

Amen.

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israel.

But baruch moez actually wrote a book called judaism is not jewish.

Oh that's good.

But going back to that that point one more time to further clarify how do you prevent

from importing into the new testament things like the insistence upon

circumcision which was a requirement not for salvation in the old covenant

as many people wrongly believe but it was essential to be connected with the nation of israel.

And there are those heretics even today they may be a minority but there are

some messianic groups that are heretical that take that to the extreme of saying that the church needs to do that

today.

They may say it's not to be saved but they would say you need to do it to be a christian or to be identified

with the the people of yeshua.

Well this would be the difference

between

a new

testament.

Well there you have an example of the fact that chris arnzen does not only interview people that

he agrees 100 percent with.

There you go.

Because as as joe knows i am a reformed baptist so we do disagree on that issue but i want to thank you for

doing such a superb job today.

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I want to thank you so much dr morecraft for being my guest.

I want to thank everybody who listened and i want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that jesus christ is a far

greater savior than you are a sinner.