Cultish: How To Talk To Hebrew Israelites, Part 2

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2 ,000 years after the departure of Jesus the

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Christ The prophets are back to teach the real

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Jews the 12 tribes of Israel their true nationality

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All right, welcome back ladies and gentlemen to cultish entering the kingdom of the cults

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My name is Jeremiah Roberts one of the co -hosts here I am Running solo once again.

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This episode was recorded right after Andrew and his lovely wife Casey had their brand new little baby boy female song

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Krantz So praise God for the new addition to the song Krantz family But I am super excited for this episode.

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I am joined once again by Oscar Dunlap. Good to see you again, man Yep, and as always we we played a nice interesting

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Intro clip very and they're dropping the bass there a little bit getting really intense but this was a clip from a group called the you

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I You I see and this is just you said this is a very well -known Prominent Hebrew Israelite group really that you said they're around pretty much in they have a presence in every state in the

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United States They are the biggest Organized group for sure. Okay. All right, fantastic And so what we're gonna be doing in this episode is that we're gonna be kind of just giving just analyzing some clips and it's gonna be a little bit random, but I think it's almost sort of like a realistic simulation of How it would more be how it would be more likely on the street because more than likely they're out there in their groups

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If you just look online and how they conduct themselves More than likely you're probably just going about your business going somewhere, you know

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Usually like in a college town or on a college campus. Maybe you're going from one class to another Maybe you went and had some food and drink somewhere

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You're you're headed to someone to meet someone else somewhere else and they're there on the street and all of a sudden you hear some

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People shouting and you're you see a group gathering. You're like, what is it? What's that? What's going on there? You walk up and so you're gonna probably walk up in mid conversation with either them

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Talking or talking with someone else. Yeah, so I here's a clip We'll go ahead just play a little bit of this and maybe we might pause a little bit cuz three minutes

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I don't know what there's a lot to kind of break down here So we'll just have some fun and kind of get into this. So here we go

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Any man spoil you right through philosophy Philosophy Christianity white man

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This one white man, this is a philosophy we don't read this in the Bible Sunday worship is a philosophy

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God loves everybody is a philosophy. That's right. That meaning it was taught by men in slavery

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To put us in submission they taught us that we read the Bible. That's not what the

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Bible says That's the picture your church, but is that what God looks like according to the

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Bible Okay, so there's a little bit to break down There so they're quoting from all just for the sake of being accurate

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From them they're get they're always gonna be quoting King James. That's what they're that's they're gonna be their go -to

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No, which is typically the case for a lot of cultists King James is just that's just their jam And the same way that's what they dropped that they dropped the base of the

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KJV kind of like the very But um, yeah, so they'll quote Colossians 2 verse 8

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And you say you have the primary speaker then you have the person to the right or to their left that'll you know

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Say it in a very exemplified a passionate way beware lest any man spool you through philosophy and Vein deceit after the tradition of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ So what they're doing in that verse they are

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Trying to make a distinction between themselves and the church and they're articulating that the church were the ones holding to This philosophy that Paul warned in the whole the

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Church of Colossi in Colossians 2 verse 8 But specifically that The fact and they're pointing it down to the fact that Jesus was white

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So they're trying to articulate that but let's let's just talk about this clip. Are they did they have an argument here or Could we make an argument that the very thing that they're they're actually articulating the very thing

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They're preaching at while proof texting this give me your thoughts. Absolutely. I would say number one

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It's it's a reach there Even to refer I mean so much of what they're doing is

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Pointing to a white Jesus where it's like I don't even know any Christians who believe that like we're looking at Oh, this is

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Jesus and he's a white man. No one even we don't even talk about that Like it's not even a conversation piece, right? And but he's pointing at that and dealing with philosophy and and we know what philosophy is

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Philo It's love and then Sophia's wisdom. It's love of wisdom. So he's saying that picture

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He's pointing to that and saying that's a philosophy that the Christian Church is teaching We're not teaching that right and and I wouldn't even call that a philosophy

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Yeah, but like you said what they're actually doing is teaching a philosophy They're teaching a worldview that is not rooted in Scripture, right?

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So they're doing with their what exactly what you said, they're doing what they're preaching against This is that's a funny text to go to to try to make sense of what he wants to preach against Because if you look at the context of what's being said in this in this chapter

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It's I don't know how he even how he makes that correlation. Well, I don't know how he's how he's making that correlation

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So yeah, and there's also I think in it while I don't know if he articulates here But I think when we are out on Mill Avenue, they were using the same verse, but they were trying to appeal to This verse to talk about well all the

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Christians are into Philosophy and that's why you know, there's 50 ,000 who knows how many denominations

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But we have the truth even though this is one small group of many branches of the of the

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Hebrew Israelites so actually, I'm just curious to how would they believing that Jesus would be really the definitive example of a

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Hebrew Israelite given that you know He you know from their point were like really fulfilled the

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Lord how they view all that But like how they look at John chapter 4 like John chapter 4

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He goes to the woman in Samaria like not just the women of Samaria, but like a

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Samaritan prostitute so like the most Despised group not just a group that was despised among among the

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Jewish people among the true Israelites Right, but someone who is a prostitute and Jesus meets her where she is and restores her

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It's a beautiful story of the gospel. Like what do they do with a story like that? It's just two ways that they're gonna go about that Either they're gonna say like the same thing that is saying

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Acts chapter 10. They're gonna say oh, she was really Israelite Either they're gonna say that she was really

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Israelite or a lot of groups are gonna point to the parallel that Christ makes when he says

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It is not me to give the food of the children to the dog and they're gonna say look Christ called her a dog And they're gonna they're gonna try to use that in a way saying that God I mean saying that Christ disparaged this lady and and it's gonna be a

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Justification for the way that they treat people who they consider to be Gentiles So those are the two ways that they're gonna do it

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They're gonna say either she's an Israelite or look how Christ cheated her and that's why we can treat you guys like that right and a lot

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Wow and you can see even like the fact that they answer that way just shows a Very like underlying pre -commitment for sure.

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And that's why even in a situation like that I would I would at least you can tell me like I would find a way to Reroute that conversation.

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We'll back to the law. Absolutely. What about you? Absolutely Are you made right with God right and that that's what you have to do because so much of what we're doing is we're trying to present something and Because of the presupposition that they have

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All of it is going to be geared. They're gonna see it through the lens of that presupposition, right? Yeah, so that's why you say you exactly what you said

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We have to go to the fundamentals of the gospel and show in Scripture what they are And like you said, it's a rock in the chute.

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That doesn't mean they're gonna change their mind right now That doesn't mean that you're gonna see any visible response to what you're saying.

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Oftentimes, they're gonna talk over you They're gonna be extremely aggressive. They're not gonna listen. Your job is to present the gospel and that's all you can do

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That's good. All right, let's go ahead and let's go ahead and hit play again and see we find out Let's let's so we'll imagine again.

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So we had that club. Let's imagine again We're walking just doing our thing hanging out and we come across at a minute three into this conversation

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And they start talking and we'll see if they say in the scope The Bible says the

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Bible say Christ like this Because they're lying they're lying that's why

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I warned you Colossus to one day. Listen, listen, listen, y 'all listen Let's any man spoil you so that's what you must do.

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You must be aware. Let's any man spoil you I mean why to you right like Christ being white you being up.

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What's your nationality? Oh You being up from Hungarian right because according to the

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Bible you guys chosen people from the tribe of Zebulon You understand you being a Jamaican you from the tribe of Benjamin you being

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Dominican you understand Simeon right. These are our nationalities.

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That's why Paul says we begin Beware That's the

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Christian pastor the Jesuit priest that came over here to our people We want to stay and spoil you meaning why to you teach you that God loves everybody

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Christ is a white man in the church The Catholicism is a philosophy

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Christianity is a philosophy Islam is a philosophy Hinduism Buddhism is all philosophy

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We want to stay away and they deceive and vain to see Christmas is a vain to see

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Easter is a vain to see birthdays New Year's is vain deceit

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All right There's a bit to unpack there so one thing that comes to mind is

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They came on emphasizing Colossians 2 verse 8 but the authority of Colossians 2 verse 8

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So they are are they are they assuming that Paul's words are authoritative that they're reading

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The word of that's the Word of God So again, this is you talk about this is a cult that has pre suppositions of the

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Word of God being authoritative well, we could take them to Well, what did the same

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Apostle Paul who talked about vain philosophy empty deceit? Said this and I would like and for those of you who adhere to this

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How the same Apostle Paul who warned that said in Galatians? 328 said there is neither

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June or Greek There is neither slave nor free there is neither male nor female for you are all one in Christ Jesus and really this is talking about From border to border and also the context perfectly also deals with ethnicity

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This is this a unifying gospel from every tribe tongue and nation that has this ability

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But all of a sudden I bet you if you push them on that they would probably try

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They would probably be a little more Eager to re to re to kind of explain with the authority of that passage

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First collages to you verse 8, you know what thinking and choosing or that tell me about that What they would do what a lot of groups would do with that is they would say that when

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Paul is talking about Gentiles He's talking about Israelites who have been

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Lost in a Gentile way of living Right Israelites. So, you know in Pentecost all these

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Israelites are coming from all over the place to Jerusalem for Pentecost they would say those people who are in those other lands speak in those other languages

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That's who it's referring to when it speaks about Gentiles So they would explain it away by saying those people aren't actually

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Gentiles, but they're Gentiles Living like Gentiles, right? Which which doesn't make any sense

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Obviously if you go to Acts chapter 6 you see a difference between the Grecians and the

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Hebrews the Grecians being the Hellenist The Hellenized Jews, there's a distinction because those

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Jews came from different places, right and they spoke a different language. They spoke Greek So the

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Bible actually makes that distinction, right? But the reason why none of that holds up though is because the

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Word of God clearly explains these things it clearly it doesn't just say Jew or Greek right if you go down to the bottom of Galatians chapter 3

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It says and if ye be Christ, then then are ye Abraham seed and heirs according to the promise?

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So Jew or Greek if it's all about being in Christ, there's no distinction in Christ Like you just read and it says heirs according to the promise.

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That's what he kept saying to the lady Oh you you you a child of God you you from the chosen race of God who's the chosen race of God?

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Those who are in Christ. Yeah, right Romans chapter 2 tells us not all Israel is Israel just because your bloodline

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Even if you grant them that okay, that's your bloodline. Cool. That doesn't mean that you're saved Abraham's but Abraham's blood is not going to save you

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Abraham's blood is Adam's blood. Yeah, right. I didn't save you You need Christ's blood, right, you know, and that's huge man.

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You think about to you know, I you know, they I'll be viewed obviously as it doesn't you know, it isn't eat a mite given the color and nifty of my skin

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And you know just call a spade a spade mean like you and I we are is on opposite spectrums of the color of the melanin

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Spectrum as you could possibly imagine, but does that really have anything to do with our identity as as Christians as to fellow like brothers

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Then he said we're not and it has to do like what blood is that the unifies? this is the blood of Jesus and what's unique to if you look and I was just Restudying it and I find because I'm just starting to kind of go through church history

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Starting at the very beginning the history of Rome is so fascinating Just because the climate that was there

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They basically said hey because they had conquered so much you had a broad variety of everyone from just the the

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Saxons You had the Greeks you had you just the everyone everyone on their spectrum and they said hey, you know

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You can just go ahead and do your thing. So when the gospel spread you were talking about More people who have been killing each other for generations

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Based off of a lot of ways a lot of their culture ethnicity and just all this Tension absolutely way worse than anything you can even imagine now even even the difficult climate

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It would happen last year in 2020 during during the summertime This was ten times worse and these people were coming together from every background with one unique identity right so as much as They want to articulate

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Christianity as something that was this, you know Conspiracy or something to polarize people against each other

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Historically, it was the exact opposite Absolutely, and what they're actually articulating is actually doing the very thing that they're claiming that we're doing.

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It's project. They're projecting That's what we call a spade a spade. Absolutely. Absolutely What would you what we know about Christianity?

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It's it's the transcendent unifier it it can actually Unify all people.

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Yeah, they are the purpose of their gospel is to divide That's the very center of it is to divide themselves from everyone else when when we it

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What's strange to me? because the heart of the Christian is is is a heart of love and reaching out to people knowing that we've been set free from The bondage of sin and we want to go share that message, right?

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We want to share what anyone will hear it, right? They're all about Separating from the rest of people sharing it with people that look like like if you just think about that That's what

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I said. They believe God is like them. They would call God a racist They would literally say that they would say it out of their mouth

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God is a racist God only only deals with these people if you're not a part of these people Mmm, you're hopeless.

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Yeah, we're just so weird for me because I think like what just for me personally Like one of the most exciting thing is I absolutely love like one of the things the biggest joys of all the years

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I've been a Christian has been like just to go anywhere whether it's like an admissions trip or to another church and to meet someone who's as opposite of the spectrum of me whether it's culturally ethnically, you know if they're from a different country and all of a sudden it's like you see eye to eye and like you just know right like Hey, tell me about your story and something you're on you're on the same page within like two minutes like your family

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You're just shooting the breeze like there's something about that. That is like truly amazing and unifying like true and I've just really like unique a really unique Christian identity that we hope people in These movements can hopefully experience through Christ.

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Absolutely. Okay, so this is a interesting conversation that it's about a minute and Again, it's some of the audio is a little bit muffled, but we'll be able to we'll we'll give you some

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We'll give you guys some context. But again, this would be an example. You're walking through Times Square Doing whatever you do in Times Square and and here are a couple of Hebrew Israelites and they're just talking about some

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Yeah, they're speaking their mind I would say and we walk in this conversation. Here's the conversation.

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We'll analyze it afterwards I Just real quickly for context because the audio is a little bit muffled

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He's what passage of the Bible is he according to him? Yeah, it was gonna muffled. Yeah, but it sounded something in regards to judgment and ending judgment, which is typical

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Will they typically quote a verse in relations or some sort of Old Testament? Yeah covenant whether it's in Isaiah or Jeremiah or something of that nature

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Someone it's something about the judgment of God. Yeah on a nation and they'll spin it into Their movement currently for sure.

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Okay, but then but then they mentioned Jake. Yeah, that's another what's is that a slang for something?

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That's a slang. Yeah, that's a slang for a Hebrew. Is it like so a lot of them will say Jake as in Jacob? Mmm, right, so that's what they refer.

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They will say Just in passing. They'll say don't refer to one another as Jake or if there's somebody over from them to them

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They're not using as a pejorative against like none. No, no, okay, or they can't they will use it

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For a person who doesn't even consider themselves. They would say that about me. They would say I'm lost, but I'm Jake You're lost

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Jake. Yeah, I'm lost it. Right exactly. I'm Jake. I'm an Israelite, but I'm lost But I would be that's interesting it'll be a part of that they would still identify me as a

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Hebrew Israelite Hmm according to my bloodline. Yeah So if you were having if a guy came up to you you go back to that conversation you had

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With them and he didn't maybe he really he just found out that you were Hebrew Israelite It's almost like if you use that language like yeah, so, uh, you know,

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I'm a Jake but you probably think I'm a lost Jake Yeah, it would just be like you get that no one else does So if you haven't explained that to me and say you brought that up I would

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I would probably tell that there's something going on. It's kind of like, you know, a little yeah code language inside language

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Yeah, definitely have some terminology that's Centered in that community for sure. Okay, sounds good.

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Let's go and play the rest of this. Here we go But just the average so -called racist white man that want to kill a gas like George Zimmerman with Trey vaughn

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By J Phil, oh it's easy to kill each other because the repercussion that won't be the same

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Right, but when the Lord put that spirit on him Take off vicious amongst these nations.

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Come on Don't wait up for the sons of man. Come on and the

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Shall be among the Gentiles be in the midst of many people. Come on Among the beasts like a young and ferocious lion

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Come on She come on If he goes dude, come on Shut him down.

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Come on Piece of seat and that data No right now everybody

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So yeah, he's definitely talking about J. He's talking about Israelites Killing non -israelites.

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Mm -hmm. Yeah talking about judgment most times what they're what they're gonna be referring to and what they believe is like a race war is gonna come up gonna you know and The people who are

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Israelites are going to be fighting and they're gonna conquer Like I said conquer the rest of the nations, right? So just real quickly as well, too

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You know you give it you think about the the climate of what happened last year and the reaction at George Floyd They're mentioning this clip.

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This is from earlier This is from 2013 and they mentioned George Zimmerman, which was a very

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Controversial case and there was it was a big thing especially you think about how they at that time a

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Barack Obama would have been president of the United States and I remember like and How many people within the

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Hebrew Israelites they viewed? Him in a very you said like reverent revering light or how did how does that Barack Obama how they view

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Barack Obama? Just curious. I'm not able to call them a sellout a sellout. Yeah Okay, they would not have

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They would not have identified him in a good way at all. Really not at all. Okay, hmm

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I would I would I would think opposite that that's interesting. Yeah. No, not at all Wow, they would say he was a sellout

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They would say that, you know, he didn't do anything to help us He just they would say that they put him there to pacify black people.

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That's what they would say. Okay. Yeah So I just remember just the climate that I mean Barack Obama's first commentary

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If I remember he said if I had a son he'd look like try Trayvon Martin And that was just something that resonated with a lot of people

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And so it was just it was a not it was a big of enough case where he had the president United States commenting Commenting on it, but in this particular clip

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They're using it as a point of reference to what they're trying for their level of argumentation

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And so the point being is that any sort of cult? Whoever it is, they're going to use the current events the current circumstances whether it's to you know

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Kind of bring forth their narrative narrative of a press versus a press in regards to their identity of their race, right?

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Yeah, they're using it to exploit that and again and that's the lens to when they're reading out loud

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Like we have a worldview when we're reading a passage that they're reading We're taught we're we're seeing

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God working Sovereignly at a particular point at a particular time in a nation working out all things out for his sovereignty and his purposes

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But they're viewing it through this narrative the very very end. I noticed they're bringing it back to There's they bring it all back to them currently in the present

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Yeah, yeah that Most of it most of the way that they understand scripture is going to be in in light of the future

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It's this is prophetic of what's going to happen or if it's happened in the past. It's gonna happen like that again, right?

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Like some of them believe How God saved the Israelites from Egypt? That's how you're gonna save them from America, right?

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very much in a literal sense looking at The Old Covenant and projecting it on to our current situation.

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You know, I mean, wow, that's interesting So they're hermeneutic would then be it's just we're not looking at Like the

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Book of Exodus We're looking at that and again, there's there's principles you can derive from there

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Ultimately that still help us in the presence and help us to get a better understanding of God But they would say in regards to their unique identity

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There's a lot in the Book of Exodus that has to do with the identity of the Israelites and being captive by Egypt And everything of that nature

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Yeah, I can definitely that would just be yeah, that's fascinating how they would they would view all of that But in a way that that would reject to them in their present time

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Absolutely, like this applies to me right now with where I'm at Absolutely, which honestly Christians can't do that a little bit to you like Jeremiah 29 11.

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That's like their version. They can do their own Okay, so the next clip will be kind of interesting this was this is an example

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I would say was hermeneutical gymnastics The way

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I would describe it and it's again This is you you need to become familiar with the original like you need like as a

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Christian you need to have familiarity and look at the Bible holistically and have a grounds in which to interpret it because You are going to have times where people will take something that on many levels is figurative and a given

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Eschatology and times it's not essential issue There's time this Christians right history who have all sorts of different views plenty of people that I love it here respect to that had different Views eschatologically, but yeah, this is a point.

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I think regardless regardless of where you hold to eschatologically You are gonna see some real gymnastics made here

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And I think hopefully we can we can kind of give some analysis of how how would we answer this? So this is a video and again, this is the title to this video

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I found Appealing it almost sounds like a Trump tweet. It's all in caps It says young Edomites bring same old lies exclamation point

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It's like there's something about that just has that like right it has the elements of it But anyways, let's go ahead and play this and let's take a look at it.

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Here we go Gage gage like 12 gage

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Okay, cool gage. Check this out real quick. I'm gonna let y 'all get back to work. So I want you to get in trouble Read this revelations 414 revelations chapter 1 verse 1

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The revelation of Jesus Christ has been revealing of Jesus Christ, right? So it's going to reveal something when you reveal something you show it right jump down to verse 14.

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Let's get to the point His head and his hairs were white like wool said his head and his hairs were white like wool

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Does that person have white woolly hair? So why would they not? Explain his true description.

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Let's keep going. Let's see if something else is different That's white as snow and his eyes were as a flame of fire

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His eyes were as a flame of fire not like Cyclops bursting out beams of fire But because when you drink wine in moderation, which it says in Matthew Christ drunk wine in moderation

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Yeah, have you ever seen it when somebody drinks alcohol? Well the whites of their eyes get red

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Okay, three and his feet like unto fine brass. What color is press?

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What color is brass gage? Like a goldish like a brownish Marie as if they burn in a furnace as if they burn in the furnace

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So whatever you put in the furnace is gonna be what color? Darker, okay. So where do we get this charcoal, right?

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Okay. So where do we get this from? Gage where do we get this image of Christ from if it's explaining him to be a man of code a

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Black man because anything you put in the furnace gauge is gonna turn what? Charcoal with charcoal, what color is charcoal?

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Charcoal is brown. Come on now. We can say a gauge. Okay. Well that is a little extra so if I understand this correctly then is that they are making argument that Jesus is black and there they have again usually they'll have the displays of all the different caricatures of Images of Jesus that showed you as as Caucasian and then now they're quoting this passage in Revelation Utilizing that the flame and the fire and all that to say well fire burns and the end result of fire is charcoal therefore

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That's what and that's how we know Jesus was black. Yeah They say his hair was white like wool.

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That means he had woolly hair Yeah, and that his skin he had dark skin because of the way that it was described brass burned in a fire

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Yeah, and then the the one that really gets me is the the one the red eyes because he's drinking a lot of wine

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That's how they that's the hermeneutic there. That's how you understand that he drank a lot of wine So his eyes are red like a flame of fire

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And that that's what's taught in every group that right there would how do they maybe

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I'm just not fully So what is so the I there was the correlation of the eyes

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I read so in correlation to Jesus being black. Maybe I'm just not know that's just one

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That's one part of that verse in Revelation here. I'm right. That's all they're just explaining it They're trying to because it's because it's literally describing him

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They have to find a way to literally every every part of literally describes, right? So does he have a sword coming out of his mouth?

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That no, that's not literal that's not literal so again there you're picking and choosing That's right.

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Oh, man, the sword coming out of his mouth would be the law, right? And this is so this would just be an example of just the hermeneutical gymnastics.

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They would play now It seems though however, you know while on some level it correlates into the nature of God and who he is

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I do My gut instinct would say this very easily could be one of those

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Rabbit trails similar similar to Mormonism about getting into what happens behind in the temple

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Right, or what about your your Mormon underwear? We're just those things that polygamy polygamy

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It seems like this is a conversation that could go a million directions So my question would be they bring in these crazy hermeneutical gymnastics, and if you stay there,

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I think you'd be stuck Arguing the ethnicity of Jesus and they would be totally content to stay there

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Totally totally content how would so how do how would we how we how do we graciously with love?

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Do some linguistic Aikido and get it back to the gospel. How are you saved?

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Right, how are you made right with God? You are under the law no matter how hard and self -righteous you think that you are what

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I like to do here Especially when they start to get into the identity or identity of Christ I like to show how The Bible tells us in Acts 17 that God from one blood made all the families of the earth from one blood made everybody right, so this distinction that God made between Israel Israel and the rest of the nations is

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Essentially to some extent superficial now, there is a real distinction there But in reality all are still under Adam, right?

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There is no real distinction that the distinction was therefore an old covenant But the Bible tells us in Ephesians chapter 2

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They were all dead in trespasses and sins Romans chapter 5 tells us that we're all in Adam or in Christ, right?

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So the distinction the reason why they want to point out that Christ is black though The main reason there is they want to identify him with themselves

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Right. They want to set themselves apart by saying we are from the same bloodline as the Savior, right?

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So what what I like to do is take them and to show them there is no distinction Romans chapter 1

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Romans chapter 2 all Are under sin and because all are under sin all need

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Christ you don't need Christ simply as a brother, right? That's how they look at him. All Christ is our brother.

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You need Christ as a Savior Yeah, you need him to save you from your sin and from the condemnation there

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So that's where they would like to veer off or what is crying and and and the interesting thing is like I said

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Where do you where do we see Christians saying talking about this? This is not even a conversation.

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No one's no one really believes. Oh Jesus Christ was a white man. He looked no who's saying that right?

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So it's right. It's it's a purpose The detour is on purpose is what

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I'm saying. No one's even arguing that point. Why are we talking about that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Get back to the essential issues because that's yeah point.

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There's no reason even going to it Oh, yeah, no, that's good. Even in two if you even like in Christian culture There's almost self satire and caricatures like we all know it's almost like an inside joke

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It's like us making the joke about you're a Jake right almost there's sort of and again I understand there's

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Christians out there their convictions are about the Second Commandment and I respect that conviction but even with those who kind of sort of adhere on some level to the artwork of Jesus that there is a level of almost sort of like We're all self aware that none of us really know what he looked like and that's probably not what he looked like, right?

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So it's almost like a very self -aware Satire right. So it to me like when they trying to pick all of that.

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It's it's very much It's a straw man on an unprecedented level you big -time you you hit it, right you hit it right on the head

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It's a straw man, right? And if you if you get sucked into it It'll derail the conversation and it'll be really hard to get back to what you want to get to, you know

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You want to and it's gonna be it's gonna be challenging because there's three of these guys out here They're all talk.

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There's always at least like three of them Yeah, so trying to get control of the conversation will be difficult, you know

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So I would I would just I would let's talk about this. Let's talk about salvation. That's how let's talk about this

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Okay, that's what you think about that. I don't believe that Anyway, but you know, no one no one's arguing for this picture of Jesus that you have here

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Let's get to something that actually means something. That's what I would say. Yeah, Jesus scripture the adults me the lens

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Okay, so another group you told me this is a someone by the name of this is a

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Sakari Sakari Sakari, so just tell me a little bit about him He's someone who's well -known, but he would be he would be someone because there's there's groups that are mean

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Everyone's intent sort of has a level of intensity even the group that we we engage with a little bit they were a bit intense that the

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Conversate the picture of the conversation you have that was an intense conversation, but there's Certain groups that do are a little bit more extra than the others

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So he would kind of fall into the category of just being a little a little extra. Absolutely So the group here is called

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Sakari. His name is his his his nickname is guerrilla Hebrew And he is the high priest the so -called high priest of this group.

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He's the leader of this group So the group that we had contact with when you came out there, that's this group Except that's in Phoenix, right?

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So the guy that that was there teaching that on that corner. He's the leader of Sakari Phoenix Okay, right now just real quickly in regards to the high priest

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Would that be different then like recall what how like you would view himself just so no special insight to that It's a different title.

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It's just a different time. They all this all the same thing. I you I see is Nathaniel I you is you

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PK is I Can't remember the guys name. They all have a guy. Okay, you know, it's not really a council

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There's typically one guy at the top. All right. I just wonder if maybe he was maybe playing like a little more of a

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Messianic role in regards. Yeah being the leader. Yeah, I From what they believe the high priest was and in the

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Bible in the Old Covenant, he would be that Okay, he would think himself to be Aaron. So this this video is 52 minutes long

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We're not going to play for 52 minutes. And again, we're gonna pick we're gonna have some fun here

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We're gonna pick a couple of random spots Just because like I said, this is probably realistic to where I'm not sure where this is at It looks like this is somewhere like on the

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East Coast where they're where they're chatting back and forth You know like wherever you're going like I said,

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I remember being in Michigan for my buddy Elliot's wedding and like I remember like being in this one plate restaurant and I was getting a drink and I looked out and There they were

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Doing their thing. There's so much the video we're about to play. I turn my head two minutes later

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I go back and look outside there. They're all gone. I'm like what? Where they go, but need to say if I had walked out there it probably it would have been somewhere

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You know in comparison this video might have a minute three minute 15 wherever it's at so right now we're at the nine minute mark, so we're gonna hit play and See what they say and have some fun here.

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Here we go. I just believe what science says about people to science Identifies as means right whites and Asians They are news right everybody else in the whole world is original those two groups of people are

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Their biology is different Than everybody else in the world. That's why Asian people just change smoke cigarettes and they still have the lowest cancer rate, right?

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They're biological mutants white people. Also, they certain things are beneficial for them. They don't work for other people things in that nation, right?

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We even think about this. Um Oh Not damn mushroom the mushrooms

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Oh, no, no drugs right think about what drugs has done to black people versus what drugs does the white people

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Like like just as any drug addiction It's easier for them to deal with Drug addiction would devastate us right these guys function drug addicts

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At the highest level. No, you're not brother. You know, fuck you're not function, right? He ain't function you don't say so so that's the best thing right there like so the biology is different But then they mutate right every their mutant form or degenerate form, but they're not like Not human, right?

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That's not if they weren't human and how can you reproduce a woman? Is that you see what I'm saying? So so that so they still whatever but the point of what we're saying is right because Number one give me cuz

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I give me covering cares, right? the whole world has a Game being played with right?

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It's everybody not even everybody But people in America more so thinking color, right?

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And color is not actual way to think And here's why go ahead

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I said 25 is 7 and he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people

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So there's a covering cast over everybody everybody in the world has been blind Okay, um a lot to impact there and so again if you're obviously if you're walking

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Down the street and you hear him saying these things about whites and Asians or did he say what

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I think he said mutants mutants Okay. Yeah, that would just I'm I could just I mean,

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I'm Obviously, I don't take offense that like this is they're being consistent with what they believe

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But what you're hearing in there and leading up to that verse is an underlying worldview of how

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They see the world. Everything is very Color coded race coded and all that just I know like what do you see underlying?

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Like what do you explain for anyone like the lens in which he's talking how he's viewing the world

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Just with what he's articulating here. Yeah so As I said before it's all at the way

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They're they're outside of them. They would say that the Bible is the Word of God, but they even Interpret the

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Bible from their worldview of them being chosen people of God So I would say that that's the primary presupposition is is who their identity right?

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And so where they're What the mutant what you're hearing from the mutant part what they're saying there is they're saying

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Adam and Eve were black Right, they're saying Adam and Eve were black and you only get to the lighter races out of Something being dysfunctional you only get to the lighter races from mutation

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And so the first like that's why they say Edomites is because they say that's Esau and Esau is the first white man

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Right and they say it says they was born hairy and red all over and they said well white men are hairy Right, and he's red and they said well you can see the blood through the skin

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That's how they would understand that and so everything that has to do with our reality is going to come down to who they are and the suppression of who they are the suppression of the knowledge of who they are and then who the rest of the people are and That's how they make sense of things like racism.

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It's not ultimately Just one of various sins, right?

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Ultimately. It's a it's a the worldview is that there's Jacob versus Esau Yeah, that's what it comes down to.

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Yeah, and so the first that he quoted I was just listening, but it was Isaiah 25 was at 75.

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Yeah Pull that up here and let's let's read it and let's let's maybe talk about that because again, he's making something like a comment where if I just for me if I just like went into in Some public environments where anybody who's a notable, let's say someone who's running for political office

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They're they're conservative. Okay, so they're not gonna get a pass. They say something like this.

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They're done. It's over It's it's on the New York Post. It's on, you know, it's being retweeted, right?

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There's outrage. They're getting canceled. Absolutely, right? So there's so it's a bit outrageous hearing on the street But the point is like there's there's a worldview behind it

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But though to wrap it all up the cherry on top ends up being this passage in Isaiah So tell me so what is that?

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Let's go and read the verse. It's Isaiah 25 and 7, okay So, okay I'll read down good and he would destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people and The veil that is spread over all nations

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He will swallow up death in victory and the Lord God will wipe away Wipe away tears from faces and the rebuke of his people

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He shall take away from off the earth for the Lord has spoken it so real quickly how?

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Like what what's the lens? You as someone who's a Hebrews life nearly a decade How would you read that verse in conjunction with what he's saying?

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So take away the veil the veil would be The understanding of who the true people

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That's the veil they would say the what's what's being hidden from the world is the true people of God, right?

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So this would not be dealing with anything other than that. These are the true Israelites. That's the veil

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Now it says he was swallowed up death in victory and the Lord God will wipe away tears from from wipe away

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Tears from all faces and the rebuke of his people. He should take away again All of this would be centered on Israelites So wipe away the tears or look at look at look at what happened to our people look at slavery

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Look at all of these things that happened to our people. God is gonna rescue us. God is gonna wipe away every tear It's all

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Centered on them all of it. Hmm all of it right where I would reference the scripture regarding 2nd

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Corinthians chapter 3 when Paul is saying the veil is done away in Christ. There's an old covenant.

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There's a new covenant God is swallowing up death and victory. That's Christ on the cross. This is about Christ This verse is about Christ.

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This is not this is not about and that you're a unique identity of people based off of their ethnicity

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No, this is talking about the God -man who went and unified Absolutely everyone through the cross from every

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Background culture ethnicity that are all one under Christ as it tells us in Ephesians chapter in Ephesians chapter 2

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He's done away with the wall of partition. See when we as Christians read the Bible everything's pointing to Christ Yeah, everything we see we we see

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Christ in it all they see themselves. Mm -hmm. It's all about them They are the main character of the story.

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So that's I could just hear how he started reading the verse He's talking about he's talking about them Yeah, which explains that they they'll read something in the

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Old Testament, but they'll read it in into the present into the present Yeah, very much projecting so yeah, let's just move forward and let's let's see what happens 15 minutes later and see and see what's going on.

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Let's see if we can find something here. Here we go A lot of niggas out there. They want to wreck it. I'll tell you how to get a record deal All you gotta do is propagate the destruction of your people the death of your people to murder your people

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Addiction of your people and guess what'll happen. The white man is gonna give you a here's a million. Here's 20 million

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Nigga, take 20 million dollars, you know Apple offer young dog 20 million dollars

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You know that Apple me he turned it down smart man. They offered him 20 M's Right so he can keep rapping about killing niggas and selling drugs if you want to make it in this world

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It's simple propagate the destruction of your people. If you simply propagate the destruction of your people you are going to be

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Gratified in this world. You're going to be rewarded in this world This world is going to love you ha if you propagate the destruction of your people because that is what this country is about That's why

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I says we ought to praise that we ought to pray and none deliverance They're praying on us in every which way in our destruction of our downfall is their profit

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They profit on every level and we're not talking about this monetarily They profit as a people from our destruction in our downfall

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They get to advance themselves as a people of our destruction on down. We don't believe These people come from Europe, right?

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Europe ain't got no resources There's no natural resources in Europe The natural resources are from all around the world not

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Europe, but the Europeans control all the natural resources How did this happen talk about I need somebody to explain to me how that occurred?

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They went and they got control over everything. So our downfall is directly tied to them coming up in the world

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Right, they needed more room. They needed more area that they need to And they had to take our resources right go ahead

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Zachariah 11 and 5 Whose possessor slayed them and hold themselves not guilty that whose possessor slayed him and hold themselves not guilty, right?

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They've done all these things to us and they act as if they're innocent the act as if they're just good people They act as if they're the standard they act as if we should follow them

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They act as if they have some type of moral compass that's admirable Right, and they don't

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See what I'm saying go ahead and they that sell them say blessed be the Lord I am rich and they said let's be let's say

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God bless America They have got so damn rich off of stolen resources stolen human beings stolen force free labor right

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They've built dynasties. They've built empires. They built wealth insurmountable wealth off of them right

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Your silly ass here He can use somebody because you scamming not a scam all right, uh

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Definitely some colorful language in that last clip. I wanted you to hear that just because even though some of you might have been like shook a little bit because of some of language he used in that it just shows you kind of the underlying just Really worldview and beliefs that he has and maybe you can give me your thoughts.

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Is that it seems to me like every Every sort of gospel has its its main problem

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Whether it's human sin or if it's where they try and everyone usually will blame like what is wrong with the world

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Like, you know, there's an aspect of like even who am I like identity? Like who am I? What is wrong with the world like and what and how can that be made, right?

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And usually like the biblical worldview would be say well, it's ultimately it's human sin Death came into the world and all men all men died through Adam and death came to all because all men sinned

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Yeah and so but with him if I'm truly honest you give me your thoughts and this it seems to be what he is articulating is

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That the real the real main problem in the world is the white man

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Like it is is the oppressor for sure That's that seems to be the gospel that he's articulating because he's talking about all of these

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What's wrong with the world, but it's all tracing back to you know, colonialism

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You know talking about areas in which people were told the reason like and took people's resources

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There's a lot of those things that were true that that did happen and the biblical worldview actually gives a case for why that's wrong and you know, it's actually the

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Christian worldview that Eradicates that so he's articulating all that so give me your thoughts on that But also they at the very end they quote a passage which we'll get into but I don't know

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How do you feel about that what he was saying in that clip just given your history? Yeah So that's absolutely true, right?

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The ultimate problem is not Sin it's the sin of the white man, right and the sin of the white man is made possible because they sin

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So they will say we broke the law and therefore God allowed these things to happen to us That's how they would make sense of that, right?

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That's what Deuteronomy 28 is all about. God is saying these are the curses that will come on the people Because they didn't keep my law, right?

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one one thing That how how there's two unifiers

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One unifier is sin all men sin, right? That's a unifier that all men are under that umbrella.

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The other unifier is Christ. Yeah, I'm together. We're all under Christ, right? That's that's the exchange because we're all in sin

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Christ That's why Christ is the only option for all people right is he's the means by which sin is alleviated, right?

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But they're making a distinction Outside of that the distinction is not Christ and that's where the problem comes in because Christ is not distinction

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Something man -made is the extinction is the distinction and yeah, man -made what's man -made in their worldview is their identity

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They think their identity separates them see and so this is one of this is what I mean by the problem

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They act as if the things that happen in this country The the slavery of black people in this country or they can point at things as far as Europe goes and all this stuff

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They act like that hasn't been the story of the world forever People have always conquered people people have always enslaved people.

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This is man's mo apart from the grace of God Man is going to enslave other men.

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They're gonna kill other men. They're gonna rape and pillage. That's what man does Yeah, the problem is sin. The problem is not one particular group of people, right?

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The problem is we all descended from a rebel was Adam But they identify a certain point in time, which is

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American history and they put they put the spotlight there And they're project they're projecting the past into the present when this has always been the story of man

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Yeah apart from Christ. This is always it right? So what do you want to talk about slavery? Well, this was happening in Africa prior to white people ever getting there, right, right and it was happening in Europe White people were enslaving white people

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Arabs and say this is the story of men and that I think that's where the big disconnect is

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You put a spotlight in and you put a spotlight in one area and disregard everything else as if the problem started here

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The problem started when they eat the fruit, right? That's where it started, you know in Christ.

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Well, that's the promise Yeah, well, that's what's so distorted about this man. Is that you know when you look at like sex trafficking

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Look, we don't make any distinctions, right? Can you imagine you're trying to?

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Like fight sex trafficking, but we're gonna make distinctions over the value of children based off of their ethnicity

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Anybody anybody with a rash of mine was a no that's insane. Those are children like no you you put your hand on them

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Like there's a reason why she has said if anyone caused any my little children to stumble It'd be better for him to be cast have a millstone, you know cast

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I mean casting to the sea You know what I'm talking about? So it just seems like now they're picking shooting. You're absolutely right.

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You know, it's funny I thought of one of my favorite shows. I was watching for a while was the show of Vikings Yeah, and in it seriously man, like a big portion of the series.

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It's all these like tribal Group Nordic groups who are all killing each other and slaving each other, you know

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Torturing each other. I mean, this is just what the pagans pagans pagans gonna peg, you know

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And what you know about sinful man is they're tribalistic by me

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Yeah, so wherever you can distinguish they make distinguishments, right and then they go and battle against whatever the other distinguished, you know

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The other group that's been distinguished, but they're tribalistic. Hey, we're all from this area We're gonna group together and we're gonna fight against those guys over there.

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That's just the way that man is That's what the gospel gets rid of So when you see the Sassanian in the barbarian, it's destroyed tribalism, right?

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Now, we're all in the family of God now That's why I'm saying that's the only thing that can actually unify man apart from that is all this will always be the problem

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But they're picking up in one It's like it's like there's a whole story of man's sin and they won't pick up in the middle of it

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Mmm, it's been the story the whole time. Why are you acting like this is new? Yeah, this has always been it for sure

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What was that? What was the verse they? Looked like it was a speaking. It was another judgment verse

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It starts off. I think they read in verse 7, but it starts off as open thy doors Oh Lebanon that fire may devour as I see it or so.

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It sounds like a judgment text dealing with Lebanon and Well what they're what they're probably doing is they're probably because they're

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I'm assuming this was shot in the United Actually didn't you know, this is very recent.

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This is October 28th of this year. Okay, it's a little sooner than I expected very recent

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But you know, they're probably I would assume that they're probably taking the verse that they wrote and they're probably viewing the

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United States of America That's what I even have to question that that they're going to project that judgment verse on the white man in America and in Europe Mmm, that's good.

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Well, I think that's good. Let's go and do one more Clip and then we'll wrap up here and let's see what else we can find here.

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So we'll jump forward Let's say imagine we're doing our thing and it's it's actually 40 minutes into conversation So you and I are just going about our business.

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We're headed over to get some Something bite to eat. Whatever. We're hungry.

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We're just we're just we're trying to find a place to eat and all of a sudden Here we are the 40 -minute mark and let's see what happens

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Think about all the think about how far in lengths that the that this food the

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Kashi went to get on in the game He tattooed his whole body He put a rainbow color weave in his hair

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He played gangster for 11 months Right.

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He took he tried to have Chief Keef murder Talked about it on camera Just so he could get this spot

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Just so a white man could go. Okay Okay, you're a good speaker. Here's 10 million.

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He did all that just to get that spot, right? That's how that's that's the desperation our people are coming coming from from the places that we coming from, right?

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Psalm 137 and 3 for they that carried us away captive required of us a song our slave masters our oppressors

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They require of us a song They want us to entertain them That's what they're looking for.

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They're looking for us. We could go all the way back in time. They want you to tap dance, right? Then what you did to just do a tap dance, right?

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You don't remember a Chappelle show remember when he was making fun of WB frog And he said man there for he said that frog is about the most racist thing

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I've ever seen in my life He said he said that frog just needs to pop out and say I like chicken

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Then he did he did my hold on he did my favorite one, which is welcome back niggas to the

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WB That's basically what the frog should have been doing right

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I'm talking about just purely racist. I remember when I was in fourth grade. I was like man.

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I want to tap dance I just thought it was like a black thing I'm not understand. I get it.

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We just we know how to tap dance stuff like the Irish man Why would they be doing the Irish dancing?

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We do the tap. I'm not even knowing like wait a minute. This is like some This is some different stuff

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Right, I wanted to get into tap dance Right go ahead. Yeah, this is Psalm 137 three again in the goodness translation

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It says those who captured us told us to sing they told us to entertain them.

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They told us to Entertain them. That's what those that captured us. That's what those that have enslaved us.

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That's what they want us to do They want us to entertain them Right, that's one of the main things that they want from us is pure and sheer entertainment and they get it

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Oh, they're getting plenty of entertainment out of us Okay. So like I said,

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I'm some of you like I said, we weren't at the beginning of the show about the Language that was going to be in You know, this is a difficult episode and and and again, but we we felt like we didn't really want to censor

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This because if you are on the street and again, this is not indicative of every Hebrew Israelite out there

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But there is the possibility you may find someone like this and you might hear things and who knows you could be with your kid

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You could be a family and you could be with your kids and that's gonna that's not going to stop them from Preaching what they seem to be true

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So just just didn't want to just express that but I just thought what was interesting what I really noticed in that last clip man as much as Their identity is keeping the law keeping the

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Commandments What was the underlying thing in that message? I mean asides from you know, the the ethnic slurs that were in there was really envy covetousness

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Absolutely, this is this is envy of this person over there over, you know What this person has and he mentions, you know,

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Drake and some of his possessions I'm not sure the celebrity is talking about the very end Oh six nine.

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Okay. Yeah, and then you know, he mentions, you know the things that he did but it's all It's all trying to create this like envy and class warfare this oppressed

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Versus the press the oppressor but you know what if you if you come into this unique identity then then you're the liberator and then he goes on to preach from Psalm 137, which was

01:00:09

You know, it is, you know, the Psalms are full of what are called imprecatory Psalms, but there's a context, you know

01:00:16

In which they are written which again they're taking something back then that had to deal with people who are held captive During that time but projecting it into the present

01:00:27

So, I know what are your thoughts on that man? So they're gonna again like what could be saying the whole time everything that they see in Scripture, especially in the

01:00:33

Old Testament They're going to identify with themselves and they're going to project it into the future. They're gonna make those parallels, right?

01:00:39

Obviously, we know The Israelites went into Egypt right as bondmen and bondwomen.

01:00:45

They were enslaved in Egypt. And so that's gonna be the primary That's primarily what they're gonna reference in terms of the transatlantic slave trade black people in America.

01:00:54

Yeah Obviously Another thing As you as you mentioned language and aggression

01:01:03

A total lack of humility all of these things you're gonna run into and those are gonna be commonplace

01:01:10

Especially especially if you are somebody who they do not consider to be Israelite in me

01:01:16

Yeah, because they know that I that I preach against that false gospel also for me.

01:01:21

Yeah But but the the level of the level of envy and I was

01:01:31

I was actually watching a talk from Doug Wilson recently and he was talking about that How envy is what's tearing the country apart?

01:01:37

Yeah, right It's it and in order to envy you must have a a disregard for the grace that God has currently given you

01:01:44

Right in order to be looking at someone else's things and wanting what they have you have to disregard what God has actually given you

01:01:50

Right Keeping your eyes on other people's things and that's you see that all throughout black

01:01:57

Hebrew Israel. I thought it's it's about wanting a different position than what

01:02:02

God has has given at the time and it's like as if God hasn't put us in a country where we're

01:02:08

Capable of working hard and benefiting my God is God has blessed us to be in a country where those things are actually possible

01:02:15

Right and they talk about America as if they are currently Slaves like the slight trace of transatlantic slave trade like that's happening right now

01:02:25

Like if you hear them talk you'll hear no difference there Yeah, they'll speak about it as if that is the present reality, right when in fact this country is built on Judeo -christian

01:02:34

You know virtues and values right by which like in order to abolish slavery

01:02:40

You didn't have to get away from the Constitution. You just had to enforce it the way that it was written, right?

01:02:45

You understand I'm saying it's built on this right and wherever Christianity goes It deals with these issues.

01:02:51

Mm -hmm, right? So now they want to tell you to get away from it Why so that yeah employ the same things that happened to them, right?

01:02:57

They say these things happen to us now now it's a vengeful spirit. They want it to happen to everybody else, right? It's just which is which is crazy

01:03:03

Oh, I know and that's the thing too is that it baffles me how much of just Christian history

01:03:08

They really ignore in regards to people who have truly been liberated. I mean you think about you know, the

01:03:16

Second same work we're getting close to the holiday and Christmas season and you know, one of my favorite carols the all -holy night one of the later

01:03:25

Stanzas says something to the extent of like truly he taught us to love one another And but he said his law is love and his gospel is peace

01:03:34

Chains chains shall he break for the slave is our brother and in his name all oppression shall cease

01:03:40

This was like written by people of like the William Wilberforce era if I'm not mistaken

01:03:46

If anyone wants an independent fact check me on that you can can but that's what I remember But this is indicative like that spirit like that is like that is the true like Christian Gospel that has like sees anyone that is oppressed that isn't slave instead.

01:04:04

They don't we don't look at The person's ethnicity of that person being oppressed and we say no that is

01:04:13

That is an image bearer of God and you do not have the right and to do that and even right now

01:04:19

Not getting to do into particulars, but there is a lot of Tyranny currently going on right now.

01:04:26

There's people at I'll just call for what it is that there are people even in our church in our congregation who are

01:04:35

Facing being terminated from their from their work because of their they don't believe that they need this mandatory vaccine

01:04:42

And again, this is an issue of self -government. You need to decide what's best for you But this that we have a current government who's saying that you have to put this into your body and if you don't you were basically sentencing you to die and My point in being that and like how is this relate to the

01:05:01

Hebrew Israelites? We had at our church service We had people stand up in our congregation who are all in that situation facing potential job termination the inability to provide for their family to feed their wife and their children or whatever the family is and you and when

01:05:23

I saw everyone stand up did we like look at oh Well, there's this ethnicity here and this ethnicity there like no these are people yeah right, this is like a situation where regardless of what your ethnicity is like this is this is tyranny and this is oppression and ultimately if you're wanting to have real justice

01:05:47

Regardless of what the issue is of tyranny is that you have to look at something that calls

01:05:52

Balls and strike and calls equal weights and measures and you're not gonna you're not gonna find that in in the worldview the

01:05:59

Hebrews realized from it from a large broad picture of What's going on in the world right now, but also from an individual salvific level if and I would say too and you can maybe give your final thoughts as we wrap up here that if you're trying to Abide by the law.

01:06:15

It's becoming a curse and even though you think, you know You're becoming a law unto yourselves and you have a law of God written on your heart and Even that man who was speaking right there.

01:06:25

He was trying to articulate You know what? He believed to be the truth and he's promoting covetousness and envy

01:06:34

Which is a violation of one of the Ten Commandments He's breaking that law and it says if you if you've broken law in one area guilty of breaking it all

01:06:42

And there's only one way that you can be rectified and be right with God It has nothing to do with your specific ethnicity

01:06:49

It has to do with the fact of you being born in Adam that you need to turn from your sin turn to Christ look at what he did on the cross is your sin for his righteousness and then you can sit at the table from every tongue tribe a nation and have

01:07:05

That so, uh, I feel like another enough of me, man I feel like I feel like all of a sudden

01:07:10

I got a little fire under my God man, like the gospel message is so clear. And that's why it's it's so absolutely amazing

01:07:18

It's because number one we cannot possibly earn it. We don't deserve it, right?

01:07:24

And so we're able to in faith receive something that's impossible if not for the faith

01:07:30

And that's beautiful. And and the reality is every man is in the same boat before God We're all guilty.

01:07:37

So if we can really be humbled by our position before God There's no way that we can look at to the left and to the right of us and start condemning one another for sins that We've all sinned before God.

01:07:49

I Was talking to one Hebrew guy and I was telling him I said you have sinned against God more than any man has sinned against You you've sinned against God.

01:07:58

Mm -hmm. You've sinned against yourself more than anyone has sinned against you, right? There's a false reality of Pointing the finger and that's what sin does what happens when

01:08:08

Adam sins in the garden. He points at the woman The one that you gave me a woman that you gave me and what does the woman do?

01:08:14

She points at the serpent. It's all sin always points sin does not take responsibility

01:08:19

Yeah, but what what repentance is is taking responsibility for our sin and saying to God Lord, forgive me.

01:08:25

I'm a sinner Humbling yourself before God and receiving Christ in faith. That's what that's what repentance is and God gives us the ability to do that.

01:08:33

So That that's really my heart for the Hebrews and my heart for all of those lost in these works

01:08:40

Righteousness systems is to understand their sin before God humble themselves and believe in the

01:08:46

Lord Jesus Christ in this finished work upon the cross and That's the only place that salvation is so when we're reaching out to these people

01:08:53

For all that for all the audience and all those people who might find themselves in these situations It's all in love.

01:08:58

These people are in bondage to their sin You hear it coming out of their mouths envy and hatred and anger just over and over just spewing out, right?

01:09:07

The Bible tells us that we as Christians are the primary goal in our life is to love God and to love neighbor

01:09:13

You hear none of that here. None of it. Yeah, and they're not capable of it There is no love in them in that way we as Christians we can actually go out and love these people whether they're

01:09:23

Hebrews or Mormons or whatever the case may be and Truly share the gospel with them and then we leave it up to God to do what he sees fit

01:09:30

Hmm. No, that's that's good, man. It's a good way to kind of wrap it up and wrap things up perfectly

01:09:35

I don't know how much anything else I could really say except thank you. Thank you man for again for coming on I think that hopefully this will be helpful for you all to get one

01:09:42

I hope we get you better equipped but also just really give you a heart for these For these guys who are passionate but are are passionately deceived so so all that being said

01:09:55

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