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Mercedes.
Peter at the beginning.
In the beginning.
No, I was going to start literally at the beginning of my notes.
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Yes.
Hey everyone.
Welcome to our Bible study.
As you know, I'm Vicki.
I think you are on a Mercedes and you might know this is our lovely.
Very orange pastor Jeff tonight, but she wore a shirt go balls.
I'm gonna play neutral here.
Anyways tonight we are actually gonna be in a study that Mercedes and I have been in for
several months.
We started this study before COVID hit and
We were studying it every Sunday.
Then we started studying it every Sunday and Tuesday.
Then we started studying it every Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday and We
decided we'd end our study tonight Pastor Jeff so If
you have any comments questions or anything like that tonight, I will ask you to
please Comment.
Usually we do not do comments because we can't see the phone, but we have Loving and caring miss
Quinn here and we have beautiful miss Ashley here and we have the handsome Jeff
here, so they're going to help us tonight with that.
What I'm gonna ask of you pastor is For you to let Mercedes get through
all of the notes we have from the study and Then we're gonna let you
loose.
Okay What's up Richard.
So Anyways, I want to thank Gwen and pastor for having us.
This is the second time we've been here and it's always It's always a joy to come to the ship.
So Mercedes This is scripture tonight read so if y 'all want
to grab a pen or Get some paper to just jot down
as we go.
That's great.
Because this is going to get real interesting and it may be longer than 30 minutes.
Just to give you a fair warning.
All right, where are we going to start out?
All right.
Well while we did this study I really learned what Harmanuta
taught us and so The key verses that
are used a lot in the In the argument of if Christ descended in the hill after his death
I pulled Before For at least a verse before and at least a verse
after.
Just for context purposes.
And I kind of realized that Harmanutas are super important.
When flipping between New Testament and Old Testament I mean Hebrew, New Testament
is Greek.
So things translate a little bit differently.
Some words apparently have multiple, can have multiple meanings so Acts 2 25
Is one that is used.
But I went to 25 through 28.
Acts 2 25 through 28 says for David says of him I saw the Lord ever before me because he is at my
right hand.
I will not be shaken.
Therefore my heart was glad and my tongue rejoiced Verse 27 because you will not leave me in Hades or allow
your Holy One to see the cave.
You have revealed the paths of life to me.
You will fill me with gladness in your presence.
Paul is quoting from Psalms 16 7 through 10 Which says I will praise the Lord who counsels
me even at night my consciousness strikes me.
I will keep the Lord in mind always because he is at my right hand.
I will not be shaken therefore my heart is glad and my spirit rejoices my body also rests securely.
For you will not abandon me to Sheol.
You will not allow your faithful one to see the cave.
So In Acts the word Hades is used
and in Psalms the word Sheol is used.
Sheol is Hebrew.
I use the Strong's Concordance as a KJV and The
definition that gave me for Sheol was the world of the dead including its accessories and inmates
parentheses grave hell.
Hades is Greek.
And it's the place or state of departed souls also grave or hell.
So in context with How Hades is used and how Sheol is used
I'm really leaning towards both of these both mean grave.
We know that your faithful one or your holy one
is referring to Jesus.
He did not see the cave.
He died he was buried he resurrected.
Well, just like in Acts 2 in this other in my study Bible in verse 27.
It says.
For you will not leave my soul among the dead right and we know David.
He did die he is in this tomb his physical body has seen decay, but he will not remain
there.
Because he will be resurrected again one day right.
So in my mind that one kind of Doesn't hold hold up.
Then we've got Romans 10 6 through 8 verse 6 being the one that is.
Or verse 6 through 7 are the ones that are being used for this argument by a lot of people
but 10 to 6 through 8 says.
But the righteous that comes from Faith speaks like this do not say in your heart who will go up to
heaven that is to bring Christ down.
Or who will go into the abyss that is to bring Christ up from the dead on the contrary.
What does it say the message is near in your heart?
This is a message of faith that we proclaim.
This is quoting from Deuteronomy 30 11 through
14.
This commandment that I give you today is certainly not too difficult or beyond reach.
It is not it is not in heaven.
So that you have to ask who will go up to heaven get it for us and proclaim it to us.
So that we might but we may follow it and it is not across the sea.
So that you have to ask who will cross the sea get it for us and proclaim it to us so that we may follow it.
But the message is very near in your heart or very near you in your in your mouth and in your heart.
So that you may follow it.
This one this one saying that Christ is except
accessible.
As long as we have Him and the word in our hearts and our mouths.
He is always accessible whereas
heaven in Our physical nature and The
depths of the sea are not.
So.
It's kind of a comparing contrast.
Not a very contrast more of a contrast.
Those two places inaccessible for us as humans.
But God is accessible to us.
This doesn't it doesn't seem like this holds up in my in my mind.
At all
We have Ephesians 4 8 through 10.
For it says when he ascended on high he took prisoners into captivity.
He gave gifts to people.
But what does he ascend mean except that he descended to the lower parts of the earth.
The one who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens that he might fill all things.
This is quoting Psalms 6818 you ascend to the heights taking away captives.
You receive gifts from people even from the rebellious.
So that the Lord God might live there.
So For this in Ephesians where it says he
took prisoners into captivity.
Kind of thinking that would be Maybe sin and death.
And he gave gifts to people he gave us Grace and mercy
and forgiveness and Life and peace.
All of all that encompasses and that's the gift he gave the captives.
But also in Ephesians 2 2 Paul talks about walking according to
the ways of this world according to the ruler for exercises authority over the lower heavens.
And I kind of think well in 2 2
When it says exercises authority over the lower heavens
this is The devil's playground so to speak where we are.
And he has principalities and.
So if you look at Ephesians 2 2 and See where he talks about the lower
heavens and then you go to Ephesians 4 10 Where it talks about the lower parts of the earth.
I don't think that's meaning hell.
I think that's here not only that though.
But to ascend you have to first descend.
He could not have ascended to heaven if he had not descended to earth.
And he descended to earth in the form of a baby.
So if he would have actually gone to hell then he would have descended.
Right.
He would have descended if he sent it.
So then 1st Peter 4 5 through 6 Says that they will give an
account to the one who stands ready to judge the living and the dead.
For this reason the gospel was also preached to those who are now dead.
So that although they might be judged by men in the fleshly realm.
They might live by God in the spiritual realm.
I think this is talking about Those who are spiritually undead separated from God.
Who are now made alive?
No longer separated from God and while we walk that according to the ways of the Lord on earth.
We will be judged by The unbelievers we will be looked at
differently.
I Because what we're supposed to do anyway because we're set apart.
But I think that's what that's talking.
I don't think it.
I don't see that as being another one.
I could Point to him.
He's sending it to hell.
We're worried.
Okay.
I'm with you.
Are we you're right?
That's what we've discussed.
I'm just trying to you know my brain.
I'm not as fast as yours.
Oh.
You'll get there one day.
It's what I'll keep being told.
So here's the meat of it for me.
And this is where I've kind of come to a standstill.
First Peter 3 18 through 20.
For Christ also suffered for sins once for all the righteous for the unrighteous.
That he might bring you to God after being put to death in the fleshly realm.
But made alive in the spiritual realm in that state.
He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient.
When God patiently waited for the days of Noah while an ark was being prepared.
Then second Peter 2 4 for God didn't spare the angels who sinned.
But threw them down into Tartarus and delivered them to be kept in change of darkness until judgment
then Jude 6 through 7 says.
And as kept was eternal change and darkness for the judgment of the great day the angels who did not keep their own
position.
But deserted their proper dwelling.
Tartarus in the strontium coordinates that I use.
It's Greek and the definition is to incarcerate in eternal torment or hell.
These three verses, I'm sorry these two verses.
There were two or three there's three these three verses led me to Genesis 6 1 through
4.
When mankind began to begin to multiply on earth and daughters were born to them.
The sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful and they took away.
They took any they chose as wives for themselves and the Lord said my spirit will not remain with
mankind forever.
Because they are corrupt their days will be 120 years.
The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward.
When the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind who bore children to them.
They were powerful men of old the famous men
with 1st Peter 3 18 through 20 my first thought was I
had to take away the punctuation and Read all
of it kind of in one breath.
He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits of the priesthood when the pastor disobeyed.
When God patiently waited in the days of Noah.
So I went okay.
Well, maybe.
Maybe it's saying that Noah while preparing the ark
was preaching to the people around him.
About what was going to happen trying to get them to repent
give their life to Christ.
But it would be the Holy Spirit that we speaking through them
because they were in prison what he did is sit right.
Within their sinful lives, right?
Um, but then when I read 2nd Peter and Jude and then
Genesis 6 she went nuts.
My mind changed a little bit.
I became Unsure because we were set we were set we were pretty set.
And so now I've gone I've teetered back and forth and now I'm kind of right
Smack in the middle and I don't Vicki.
I don't know where you stand.
I don't think with all of this.
I'm still standing on and my thought is is that Jesus didn't
descend to hell.
He's God if he wanted anything and that was that was my.
That was another thought I've had to is.
Okay, he's don't have to go to the depths of he descends to hell.
Mike drops told you so proclaims victory but
He's got he's why would he need to do that?
You know when when Peter denied Christ three times smack in the middle of his last
denial the ruse occurred and he went.
Jesus didn't say I told you so he just kind of looked at there was no I told you so because he didn't have to.
Because Peter knew Right soon as he said.
But we also know that once you're dead You don't have a second chance of repentance.
Have a second chance of going.
Hey, wait a minute God Can I can I would do over?
Well see and then there's that and that's how this whole thing started is because
I've heard different things about keys and Of course, I've not read
anything or seen anything scripturally about keys we haven't run across that.
But it's one thing that was brought to my attention whenever I first Started
discussing this with a few people so I Kind of tossed that out the window, but
I see why you kind of did a boomerang on coming back around and
Questioning what we had studied thus far.
Well, and then I think another question that should be posed is is hell empty.
I mean if If he descended into hell there should have been I'm assuming there would be a
reason not just for the fun of it.
Sure, right.
So there's that right?
That's what I got.
So that's where we've been.
Wow.
And not only that but then we've just sat back and just discussed.
Like I told you before we started this We squirreled so many times and with so many direct different
directions.
We've now got a list of things that we want to study when we finish this because we've run across a whole bunch of other stuff.
Yeah, y 'all got into the Nephilim.
I mean.
So, you know, I mean, but there's an array of things because the Bible carries so much information.
It does so and it's really really really really interesting.
Very much so.
Well, I give you eight lessons.
Definitely.
And that's that's the essence of systematic study of course, it wasn't exhaustive obviously
because we're never going to exhaust it, but systematic theology.
Systematic study is is a great way to answer theological questions and also to give
credence to a doctrinal understanding.
And I appreciate your your adherence to a harmoneutical logic and a harmoneutical truth.
But I think you really Already know what you believe because
every time you read you said yeah, that doesn't hold water.
Yeah, that doesn't hold water.
Yeah, that that doesn't make sense.
Yeah that and so as the verses were coming out, even though They have been used
traditionally.
To talk about Jesus going to hell you through your studies and then you did a great job.
You came to a conclusion based upon the comparison With the doctrinal truth
found from Genesis and Revelation.
If I could just respond to a couple of things.
Well, first of all, it's important to note that Jesus throughout his ministry
Continually alluded to and then there in the last part of it, especially you get to the last half of
the book of John.
John's really cool because the first half of John deals with Everything and
then the last whole half of the book of John and the gospel of John just deals with the last week of
Jesus's physical life and Jesus said many times I'm going to be arrested.
I'm going to be Beaten.
I'm going to be shamed.
I'm going to be killed.
And I'm going to rise again, and he was very specific on the sequence.
He was very specific on what was going to happen.
The interesting thing to note though is that he never said I'm going to hell nowhere in Scripture.
Did Jesus ever say that?
We also know that what Jesus did say, of course is the thief on the cross.
He said to him today you will be with me in Paradise, and I don't think
there would be anyone who would confuse Paradise with hell.
The other thing about this is this this has gotten so much
Over the years, of course most people that in churches today, they're so doctrinally ignorant.
They don't even deal with with studying some of these harder nuggets of theology, but
the reality is we have listened to this and we it gained
traction early on in Ecclesiastical history because of what was known as the Apostles Creed
if any of you guys Grew up in the Catholic Church or some other churches.
You will actually remember saying and he ascended or he descended into hell and
blah blah blah blah.
What's funny is the Apostles Creed was not written by the Apostles at all.
Yeah, it was actually written to try to get an understanding of.
The church tried to make a creed and to sum up in one phrase
The Apostles teaching that's why it's called the Apostles Creed.
But it wasn't written by the Apostles and a lot of denominations have removed that phrase.
He descended into hell because it is vapors of.
Even verses that could even be turned to even believe that.
What one of the one of the better theologians that talked about this is a guy named Gruden, he's very
famous.
I encourage all of you.
He's someone you could definitely listen to.
There's another issue here and it gets into a doctrinal issue and once
again, I encourage all of you whenever you have questions about God's Word and This is an
example of what you should do Is don't listen to preachers don't listen to whatever
you dive into the Word of God.
Everything she was quoting was scripture and.
But the thing that you got to look at is Atonement.
When I hear people say well, I have to do this to be saved immediately a red flag goes up for me because
It is by grace you are saved through faith not of yourself.
See and so when something violates the construct of a doctrine and remember doctrines are something they're
spoken of from Genesis to Revelation and they don't contradict any other doctrine.
So if someone sits there and says well hey, Jesus went to hell one of the red flags that should pop up
to you would be Atonement that would be one of the things when Jesus
died on the cross.
He said it is finished that the atonement.
The reason Jesus died that's substitutionary atonement.
In other words.
He took my place there and the propitiation ie God's wrath turning from
Man turning to Christ the wrath of God fell on Christ.
But when Jesus said it is finished there would needed no other
action it was needed by Christ to fulfill the salvation of of
Mankind or the reconciliation the bridge back to God.
Now some people say well What he did is he went to hell to give the Old Testament people a
chance for salvation.
Well, there's a problem with that too because the same faith that say to Abraham in the Old Testament.
The same faith that saved Paul is the same faith that saved me.
God didn't change.
Anything Jesus Christ was always going to cross.
In fact in the book of Revelation It says that Jesus was actually slain before the foundation of the world.
The will of God is so immutable and so perfect and it's so sovereign.
That even though from our paradigm on a linear time frame Jesus had not yet died.
Before the foundation of the world by the will of God declaring it is as if it had already
happened.
So the idea that Jesus had to go to hell to
give people in the Old Testament a chance is erroneous because we know
Romans chapter 4 and chapter 5 and many others that the same imputed
righteousness That was given to Abraham because of faith is the same imputed righteous
given to us and that's really important because that righteousness is from the finished work of Jesus
and Abraham was imputed, you know 4 ,000 years before Jesus was born.
So It's the same thing right.
Well, correct but Jesus Jesus Jesus Completed
the physical work.
Leviticus 17 and other places tell us that life is in the blood and without the shedding of blood Hebrews
9 without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.
So Jesus had to come and be that sacrifice and all the sacrificial laws of
the Old Testament were foreshadowing of what Jesus would complete however saying that
You still had to have faith in coming Messiah in the promises of God.
Remember the first allusion to or the first I shouldn't say allusion that the first promise of God of
reconciliation was in Genesis chapter 3 verse 15 and
It went on from there Jesus completed and that's what Ephesians 1 talks about it's
Dispensation the management of time the dispensing of God's revealed will over time
Jesus was always going to go to the cross.
There was nothing that was going to stop that.
So the other thing is is a couple of the verses you
did a really good job.
I'm really happy About some of the things you did just some things
read again, if you will Ephesians 4 8 through 10 and let's go through
that Expository and let's see if we can't make some more sense of that.
For it says when he ascended on high to prisoners in the captivity he gave gifts to people.
The one who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens that he might fill all things, right.
What's really cool is to understand this is that the advent of Jesus and that
is his incarnation.
Is his descending from heaven to earth?
When he and you actually said this.
When when he became man when he became incarnate.
That was a descent from the regalness of his majesty in heaven.
To actually taking on a decaying body.
You know, we all know through entropy that all mankind decays.
So Some people say what he descended meaning that he descended lower into
hell.
Well, that that's that's.
That's not that's not at all what it's saying if you continue reading it kind of spells it out.
Because as you read it talks start talking about the earth and and so therefore Jesus had
descended from heaven to earth.
The other thing is and this is something Christians that I hope you Record
this and play it back and write this down because it is confusing
but.
And I'll I'll try to explain it.
First first Thessalonians and some other places it talks about the dead in
Christ.
You have to understand that there are only two groups of people.
Much to the chagrin of some of the more politically
Motivated people today and identity politics, there's there's not many races of people.
There's only one.
There's not a difference between male or female according to Galatians Jew or Greek bond or
free.
That we are all one in Christ.
So there's only two groups of people by implication of saying that we are one in Christ.
Means by default that all Christians are one and they are in Christ.
The other people that are not in Christ.
Well, those two groups are referred to as being alive and being dead.
Okay, Ephesians chapter 2 tells us that we were dead in our sins and trespasses.
Literally, ladies and gentlemen, if you are not a born -again child of the Living God You are
dead in your sins and your trespasses.
So there are people who are walking around Physically right now who are alive
in Christ and then those who are dead.
But then you have a separate group of people and once again 1st Thessalonians 4 is a great
chapter for you to go and read this.
The dead in Christ now who are the dead in Christ?
Well what that means in that prepositional phrase in Christ is really important.
It means those that have physically died Yet are still in Christ meaning
that our trichotomy our body.
We have a mind body and a spirit a soul.
And I know there's there's some discussion about soul and mind but let's just say we're a three -part thing
Genesis chapter 1 verse 26 that we were created in the image of God God the
Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit.
We have a mind we have a body we have a soul.
So when it says the dead in Christ, it means that our bodies our physical bodies are dead thus
releasing our spirit.
Well, if we're in Christ our spirit is with Christ and that hence is why Jesus said to the
thief on the cross today You will be with me in Paradise so his
body was taken down.
In fact that thief's body we know according to Tradition and legal state he was thrown
into the valley of Gehenna that physical body was thrown into the garbage dump.
Yet his spirit was with Christ.
So you have Christians who are alive in Christ and then you have Christians who are dead
in Christ.
They're physically dead yet spiritually alive.
They are physically alive and spiritually alive.
Does that make sense?
Yes, you mentioned Gehenna.
I've heard that word.
Can you define it?
Gehenna is another word in the Greek that is used for hell and what it was in the valley of
Gehenna here's if you kind of think of like this being
Kind of a hilltop and Jerusalem's up here one of the valleys when you go down the hill one of the
valleys here is it's called the valley of Gehenna or excuse me Gehenna and and
basically it was the city garbage dump and.
You know, you would throw stuff over there.
Have you ever watched What's it called when?
You put grass clippings and organic garbage together.
Compost if you've ever watched a compost pile.
Of course a chemical reaction takes place the breaking down of organic matter and it actually will start giving
off heat.
You have an exothermic reaction.
He starts giving off that heat.
Well, that was one of the pictures that Jesus used in describing hell.
He says where the fire doesn't go out the worm dieth not that maggot.
So those.
That that picture that he is painting of hell he was using that that city garbage dump
that the cane burning mass and that maggot infested mass.
To describe well, that's what Gehenna it's a word that you.
Okay, okay.
What.
Let's save that for another because Luke 16 in and of itself paradise and heaven are they
the same thing.
Are they different the bosom of Abraham and parent with his all that the same?
So, I mean, that's a beautiful discussion and I have a definitive answer I believe for that but
finishing this up because those Enchiladas are smelling really good.
If the other thing is this is that Christ the reason he came died and was resurrected.
He is the firstborn.
Corinthians tells us that Jesus is the firstborn among many brethren.
Now, that doesn't mean Firstborn means preeminence to be sure but it's also
firstborn as an example.
Jesus is glorified his physical body was resurrected and glorified.
That has not happened yet for Christians if you go dig up old Charles Spurgeon right now.
Hit his souls in heaven, but his body is still laying decayed in a grave
we as an example.
Will it because we're going to follow Christ example, right?
We our bodies will be Resurrected up now the question becomes if Jesus is
life if his death barrel resurrection is an example.
Believers the question then begs itself if Jesus died and his soul went to hell and his body
went to the grave.
Then that is could be implied that that would happen to all people.
Hence from the book of Maccabees and some other places you have this false doctrine of purgatory
and basically what purgatory states is that Even if you are a Christian, it doesn't matter.
In fact, I think it was Pope Innocent the third said if I will spend a lifetime in Purgatory then
how much more will you guys meaning he was so holy and all that did you have to go to
purgatory to still pay for certain sins.
That is not doctrinally scripturally.
Yeah, right.
Christian listen to me if You don't understand the freedom that is in Christ
now here even in a broken body.
Your chains are gone them shackles are gone.
You have been set free.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
There you go.
Your condition may waffle but your position in Christ does not so once again.
The reason another reason that I don't believe Jesus went to hell is because the example said
could not doctrinally apply to us.
Now as Vicki kind of alluded to earlier if the doctrine can't apply to us.
Then how in the world can it apply to a sinless perfect example and
sacrifice?
It is illogical both on a doctrinal and common -sense standpoint so.
So by the way, I didn't finish so you have the alive in Christ you have the dead in Christ.
But now you also have the alive that are going to hell and the dead that are already there.
So that's that's the two groupings of people.
You're either a Christian or you're not and those two subgroups as you're a Christian who's physically alive or
physically dead or you're a lost person who's physically alive or physically dead and
unfortunately.
Also an eternity in death.
I could go on.
I've made a lot of little notes.
I could go on but I think it's important to also note to this.
I tried to cheat but I couldn't read your writing.
Yeah, I write kind of quick The
Nephilim and other things and of course this goes into the idea of Did
angels come down and have sex with physical women and they produced the Giants.
Now once again There you can gain some traction from that from
linking Certain things in the Bible.
I eat Goliath is supposed to be a descendant of one of these people.
Here's the problem with that.
It's not doctrinally spoke of The sons of God are the godly
line of Seth in other words The incest was over.
So in other words generation after generation after generation after generation the line of
Seth ie the the other son born or one of the many children, but the next
son born after the whole Cain and Abel thing to Adam and Eve was a young man named Seth and And
He saw the daughters of men so what what it's saying is is that that godly line of Seth that
Adamic line that went all the way down and of course it goes all the way through to all of us.
But in particular Jesus were marrying folks that maybe
Weren't doing so hot.
Okay, but in no way does that mean that angels were having intercourse?
With human beings.
Angels don't marry.
They don't have sex.
That that's not that that was not what they were created to do and we don't turn into angels when we
die.
So anyways, all right, Lisa.
Her question is are people who died in their sins already in hell.
Thank you.
Lisa for the question.
The question was Repeat the question one more time, please.
Okay, so in other words a person let's if I
Correct if I could I think I think for everyone I think what she's asking is this in
other words If someone who does not have Jesus Christ, let's word it like that because that's more definitive.
Someone without Jesus when they physically die do their souls immediately go to hell.
The answer is yes.
Absolutely.
And once again, you can call that different things.
But we know once again from Luke 16 and and some of you preachers out there need to listen to this one.
Luke 16 is not a parable.
Okay, it's not a parable.
Jesus talks about a specific man named Lazarus and Jesus never said it was a parable.
He said that a rich man was in torment and hell and he physically describes the torment and
the hell.
He was conscious about the fact that he was thirsty he was conscious and he knew that his brothers were still
Living on earth.
So yes, if you die right now without the atoning blood of Jesus Christ Yes,
you will go to hell and I'm sorry.
Jesus isn't coming to hell to rescue you.
He's already rescued you one time through the propitiation of God's wrath on him instead of
you you have that opportunity right now if the Holy Spirit is talking to you right now and
I do not harden your heart against the Holy Spirit of God.
You need to humble yourself and you need to come to trust Jesus Christ for your
salvation.
Because he was trying to send up an SOS to his brother.
Yeah.
And what's really cool is it actually says Abraham says even if
someone rose from the dead They would not believe.
And what's so powerful about that is we see that in Scripture.
In fact, we talked last night In Acts chapter 4 where the the
Sanhedrin was about to punish Peter and John.
Because a guy who was lame for 40 years was standing right beside Peter and John and
Peter and John said Jesus did this.
They totally Discounted that and we're just trying to keep a hold on their power.
Your heart can get that part.
In fact, we know in the book of Revelation Even after God has said this is everything that's going to happen and when
those things start transpiring It says that people are actually going to hate God.
They're not denying his existence anymore, but they hate him.
Your heart can become that hardened by sin.
Can you maybe help me flush out 1st Peter?
1st Peter 3.
All right, well, let's let's flush that out together shall we.
First you know, I'm looking I'm looking in my new old man Bible.
I Think we're specifically 19th and 20th
First Peter.
Let's go chapter 3.
And let's go Roy.
All right, so what is 1st Peter 3.
First of all who wrote it jump right out and say it.
It's okay.
So to whom is he writing.
Well, okay, let's say he's writing to believers but specifically.
If you look back here to the temporary residents dispersed in Pontus Galatia Cappadocia
Asia Bethania what he's writing to are the Jews that have been dispersed because of
persecution over the years.
Okay, so Peter a Jew is writing to fellow Jews and.
But who are believers and he's giving them instructions How to live a godly life.
And of course chapter 3 starts with that famous part of in the same way.
Wives make your husband's sandwiches.
With mayonnaise.
No, it
goes through and it's telling us how we should behave.
You get to verse 13 and there's a transition Of chapter 3 and who will harm you if you are
deeply committed to what is good who's going to harm you?
But even if you should suffer for righteous you are blessed.
Do not fear what they fear or be disturbed but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts.
Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason of the
hope that is in you however.
Do this with gentleness and respect keeping your conscience clear.
So that when you are accused those who denounce your Christian life will be put to shame.
For it is better to suffer for doing good if that should be God's will than doing evil.
Okay, so stop right there so Some of the new
converts the new Christians basically, maybe the older generation and some of the
more Snooty Jews are sitting there going you've sold out your people.
You're you how can you do this except is Jesus God, man God is God has told it that
Jesus is God and they wouldn't listen.
And so Peter is giving them a word of encouragement.
Hey, man, don't don't get tired.
Stay strong.
So it says this for Christ also suffered for sins once and for
all.
See, he didn't have to go back to hell.
He suffered once for all.
So as you read this read it in context.
He suffered sin once for all the righteous ie Christ for the
unrighteous ie Alabama people.
That he might bring you to God that in itself is the entire gospel right there
the entire gospel.
After being put to death in the fleshly realm.
He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were
disobedient when God Impatiently waited in the days of Noah while an ark was
being prepared in it a few that is eight People were saved through
water.
Baptism which corresponds to this now saves you not the removal of the filth of the flesh.
But the pledge of the good conscience towards God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
So what just happened there?
What is Peter saying?
He's giving them a great illustration and then he gives an illustration
to the illustration.
Yeah, and so he sits there and he sits and he says Jesus died once and for all and he was put
to death.
But made alive in the spiritual realm in that state that spiritual realm the proclamation of Jesus
Christ In his death was made.
That justice and the truth and the fulfillment of God's covenant plan for
that atonement was now complete in Jesus Christ and Everyone knew it.
Remember all the demons they came running up and they would call Jesus the Holy One.
They knew who he was.
They knew why he was there, right?
The the finished work of Jesus Christ is a proclamation to Everything
okay in the spirit his flesh.
His flat flesh was in the grave, right?
But his spirit made a proclamation to everyone the spirits in
prison.
Who in the past were disobedient now when it's saying that it's talking about in the past.
It's talking about specifically the people in the days of Noah.
This does not mean that Jesus went to hell and talked to the people in the days of Noah.
It is an allegory of.
The salvation was a proclamation by God the finished work of Jesus Christ.
Just like water baptism is a proclamation of your salvation, but in and of itself it
does nothing.
Okay, in other words salvation is there and available.
But you Recognizing that and you accepting that are two other things.
No one was without an excuse.
The proclamation the availability of the blood of Jesus Christ is Available to anyone.
If you do not accept it you by default have rejected it.
So you can't claim later on why I didn't know Romans one says that people
are without Excused and so what this discussion here is that Peter's making
is and don't get hung up on those three words.
Okay, don't get hung up on those three words.
The proclamation is for all that it is finished once and for all.
Those people who are still dead in Christ those people who are still encased in sin.
Those people who are still Jesus no longer has to walk in the flesh to make that proclamation
his finished work his spirit the cry or Declares that there is freedom in
You can be set free from the ball of sin and death even as a lost heathen and
God is so loving so love that he actually will say folks
from Huntsville.
That explains a lot.
I'm really surprised you bolded out right outside.
Yeah, I'm.
You want some.
Well, it's okay because as we just read.
Do not do not let people when they persecute you.
Absolutely, you have the Mount Zion you have Mount Moriah and you have Neely Stadium.
Well, I'm gonna tell you I guess.
The final word that I have heard tonight is that if you're lost you better be.
That's the most important thing.
We can talk theology at the end of the day.
That is the most important thing that if you lost There is a way for you to be found and it's through
not churches or stupid preachers.
It's through the blood of Jesus Christ once and for all and guys.
Remember if you are truly truly saved if you're truly saved you are truly
truly free.
You are no longer prisoners and the Spirit of God declares this right.
Just repent repent daily.
Every 15 minutes if you got to.
If you drive in Memphis, it will be by the minute.
True, it was for me yesterday on my way to work.
Mile marker three you better be on number three repentance.
Well, I want to thank y 'all again, thanks for coming tonight.
I've really really really enjoyed this.
I can now say that this study is over.
We can go on to one of the other minis that we've got.
There's a couple answers that we got for a couple of our studies.
Let me say this deal if you want to study the Nephilim, that's great.
But before you do that study the word Elohim.
Elohim.
It's the word used for God.
In fact in Genesis 1 1 God created Elohim, but it's also used in Genesis 11 and
Genesis 31.
It can also be translated as idols or judges or angels and that's important that you understand that
in the Hebrew the context Elohim gives its Definition by by
context so keep that in mind as you go and study other words.
We're gonna eat dinner now.
See y 'all.
And this has been a while moment.
Sandwich.