2 Samuel 13:1-22

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2 Samuel 13:1-22

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Let's open the word of prayer, brother.
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Father, we come to you this morning, Lord.
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We thank you so much for this new day that you've given us and the ability to get up and just come to a place, Father, to worship you.
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I thank you for Mike, who takes the time out to work and study your word, to teach your people, Father.
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And I just ask him to watch over him, Father, and use his voice for what you want for us to receive this morning for these things.
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I pray in Christ Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen.
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All right.
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2 Samuel 13.
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We'll read the whole chapter.
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Now it was after this that Absalom, the son of David, had a beautiful sister whose name was Tamar.
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And Amnon, the son of David, loved her.
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Amnon was so frustrated because of his sister Tamar that he made himself ill.
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For she was a virgin, and it seemed hard to Amnon to do anything to her.
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But Amnon had a friend whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shemiah, David's brother.
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And Jonadab was a very shrewd man.
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And he said to him, oh, son of the king, why are you so depressed morning after morning? Will you not tell me? Then Amnon said to him, I am in love with Tamar, the sister of my brother Absalom.
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And Jonadab then said to him, lie down on your bed, pretend to be ill.
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And when your father comes to see you, say to him, please let my sister Tamar come and give me some food to eat and let her prepare the food of my sight that I may see it and eat it from her hand.
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So Amnon lay down and pretended to be ill.
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And when the king came to see him, Amnon said to the king, please let my sister Tamar come and make me a couple of cakes of my sight that I may eat it from her hand.
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And David sent to the house of Tamar saying, go now to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.
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So Tamar went to her brother Amnon's house and he was lying down and she took dough and she kneaded it and made cakes in his sight and baked the cakes.
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She took the pan and the dish out of them out before him, but he refused to eat.
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And Amnon said, have everyone go out from me.
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So everyone went out from him.
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And when Amnon said to Tamar, bring the food into the bedroom that I may eat it from your hand.
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So Tamar took the cakes, which she had made and brought them into the bedroom to her brother Amnon.
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And when she brought them to him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her, come and lie with me, my sister.
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But she answered him, no, my brother, do not violate me for such a thing is not done in Israel and do not do this disgraceful thing.
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And as for me, where could I get rid of my reproach? And as for you, you will be like one of the fools of Israel.
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Now, therefore, please speak to the king for he will not withhold anything from you.
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He will not withhold me from you.
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However, he would not listen to her.
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And since he was stronger than her, he violated her and lie with her.
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Then Amnon hated her with a very great hatred for the hatred which he hated her was greater than the love in which he had loved her.
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And Amnon said, get up and get out.
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And she said to him, no, because this wrong thing of sending me away is greater than that which you have done to me.
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Yet he would not listen to her.
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And then he called his young man who had attended him and said, now throw this woman out of my presence and lock the door behind her.
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Now she had a long sleeved garment for in this manner, the virgin daughters of the king dressed themselves in robes.
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Then his attendant took her, pushed her out, locked the door behind her.
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And Tamar put ashes on her head and tore the sleeves from her garment, which was on her.
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And she put her hand on her head and she went out crying away.
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Then Absalom, her brother said to her, has Amnon your brother been with you? But now keep silent, my sister, he is your brother and do not take this matter to heart.
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So Tamar remained and was desolate in her brother Absalom's house.
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Now, when King David heard all these things, he was very angry, but Absalom did not speak to Amnon either good or bad for Absalom hated Amnon because he had violated his sister, Tamar.
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Now it came about that after two full years that Absalom had cheap shears and Baal Hazor, which is near Ephraim.
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And Absalom invited all the king's sons and Absalom came to the king and he said, behold, your servant has cheap shears.
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Please let the king and his servants go with your servant.
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And the king said to Absalom, no, my son, why should we should not all go for it will be a burden on you.
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And although he urged him, he would not go, but he blessed him.
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And then Absalom said, if not, please let my brother Amnon go with us.
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And the king said to him, why should he go with you? But when Absalom urged him, he let Amnon and all the sons of the king go with him.
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Absalom commanded his servant saying, see now when Amnon's heart is married with wine.
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And when I say to you, strike Amnon, then you put him to death.
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Do not fear.
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Have I not commanded you to do this thing? Be courageous, be valiant.
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So the servants of Absalom did to Amnon just as Absalom had commanded them.
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And then all the king's sons arose and each mounted his mule and they fled.
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Now it was while they were on the way that the report came to David saying, Absalom has struck down all the king's sons and not one of them has left.
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And the king arose, he tore his clothes and he lie on the ground and all his servants were standing by with their clothes torn.
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And Jonadab, the son of Shemiah, David's brother responded, do not let my Lord suppose that they have put all of the young men to death.
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All of the king's sons for Amnon alone is dead because by the intent of Absalom, this has been determined since the day that he violated his sister Tamar.
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Now, therefore, do not let my Lord take this report to heart.
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Namely, all the king's sons are dead for only Amnon is dead.
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Now Absalom had fled and the young men who were within the watchman raised up his eyes and he looked and behold, many people were coming from the road behind him by the side of the mountain.
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Jonadab said to the king, behold, the king's sons have come and according to your servant's word, it has happened.
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And as soon as he had finished speaking these words, behold, the king's sons came.
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They lifted up their voices and wept and also the king and all his servants wept bitterly.
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Now Absalom fled and he went to Talmai, the son of Amahud, the king of Geshur.
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And David mourned for his son every day.
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So Absalom had fled and he had gone to Geshur and he was there for three years.
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The heart of the king of David longed to go out after Absalom for he was comforted concerning Amnon since he was dead.
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Well, that's a difficult passage.
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We are introduced with the person and character of Absalom for the first time.
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We remember he was in the genealogies back, I think in chapter two or three, somewhere right there.
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And we briefly spoke about who he was.
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But this, you can tell by the beginning, as we read this, is this about Amnon? Is this about David? Is this about Tamar? I'm gonna let you know, this is about Absalom.
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This will be the rise of Absalom's conspiracy to try to overthrow his dad.
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It will show that his desire is to be preeminent over everyone.
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Now, if I was to make a list of all the bad boys of the Old Testament, Absalom would be one of them.
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And I'm gonna be quite honest, there's parts about Absalom that I can identify with.
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As we go through this, I ain't saying what Absalom did was right, but I understand.
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I'm not saying what he did was right.
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It would be very difficult if someone violated my sister if I would not respond in the same way, apart from the Spirit of Christ being within me.
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And I think there's no one in here that if that happened to a family member, that immediately what would swell up inside would be a desire to punish the evildoer.
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So as we look at Absalom, I want you to understand that this is, this will be the beginning of a long four years of bitterness that would rise up within his heart that would then make him go against his father and try to overthrow the kingdom.
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And we'll just start it in verse one.
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Now it was that after this that Absalom, the son of David, had a beautiful sister.
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Her name was Tamar, and Amnon was the son of David, loved her.
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So Absalom and Amnon had two different mothers.
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Absalom's dad's actually, our granddad was the king of this guy here, which as the story unfolds, we understand why he fled here.
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This would be, he'd go get safety at granddad's house.
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Amnon would have been the firstborn son of David.
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And Absalom, so you would have had Amnon, Absalom.
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He would have been the first.
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I'm just gonna tell you right up front, I think there's two motives for him knocking off Amnon.
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I think his desire to usurp the throne, this gave him the reason to say, you know what? If I get him out of the way, I'll be the next in line.
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And I do believe that does play in part, and I understand that as how the rest of the next four chapters unfold that Absalom's desires to be king, and he is willing to kill his own dad because of it.
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Well, who was Tamar? Obviously, Tamar was Absalom's sister.
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And we know that Tamar was a beautiful young woman.
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It says that.
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And obviously as we go on through the next few chapters, Absalom loved his sister so much and cared for her, he even named a daughter after her.
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He has a daughter and he names her Tamar.
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So it says that Amnon was frustrated because his sister Tamar made himself ill over her for she was a virgin.
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Right off rip.
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We should have a problem with him lusting after his sister.
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Okay, I mean, look, when we started back in chapter 12, I said that God's designed for men, or they are without question aroused by the female body.
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And by designed, God made it that way.
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Husband and wife, man and woman, brother, sister, no, no.
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So there is a problem here.
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This man has an incestuous desire for his sister.
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Now it does say love, but I would say better correctly understood would be a infatuation and lust, what's that? Yeah, lust.
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Selfish love, yeah.
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Yeah, a desire not for her beauty, but a desire to fulfill a sexual pleasure.
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Now, we do see tidbits of David right here.
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Did he not look after that which it was forbidden? Yeah, he looked after Bathsheba.
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What should he have done? About face.
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What should Amnon do? Mosaic law says that my feelings and the way that I have desires for my sister are wrong.
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These desires can have me put to death by the Mosaic legislation.
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But what does he do? He don't care.
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Yeah, he does not care.
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Now, it says that it seemed hard for Amnon to do anything to her.
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Well, of course it did.
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If he did anything trying to do it legally under the Mosaic law, it would have been one, it would have been incest.
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Both of them could be put to death and they would never, King David would, and we're gonna talk about that when we get to it.
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David would have never allowed the two to marry.
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I think her plea to that is a plea to try to escape her.
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And we'll talk a little bit as we get to it.
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But then you have this crafty young guy that comes in in verse three.
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It says, but Amnon had a friend whose name was Jonadab.
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He was the son of Shemiah, David's brother.
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It's not really his friend, it's his cousin.
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And this dude's, he's a make it happen kind of guy.
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He says, he sets the plan.
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He says, look, man, if you love your sister and you want her that way, let's concoct this plan in which you can take advantage of her.
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And he says, you're depressed every day, morning by morning.
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Won't you tell me what your problem is? And Amnon said to him, this is in verse four, he says, I'm in love with Tamar, the sister of my brother Absalom.
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Right then, what should Jonadab have said? Red flag, buddy, wrong.
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He should have directed him another direction and says, hey, the feelings that you have are ungodly.
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They are prohibited under the Mosaic covenant.
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But what does Jonadab do? He says, I got a plan for you.
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He says, you go lie down on your bed, pretend to be ill.
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And when Absalom, I'm sorry, and when your father comes to see you, say to him, please let my sister Tamar come and give me some food to eat and let her prepare food on my side that I may see it and eat it from her hand.
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So he gives him the idea in his mind.
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Hey man, why don't you do this? I'll give you the plan.
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I'm not gonna help you do it, but I'm gonna give you the idea.
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So Amnon lay down, he pretended to be ill.
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And when the king came to see him, Amnon said to the king, please let my sister Tamar come and make a couple of cakes in my side that I may eat it from her hand.
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He does exactly what Jonadab says for him to do.
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So we obviously know that these are grown men, okay? How do we know that? He is in, Amnon's at his own place.
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He's not in the quarters of the king.
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So it says the king comes to him and as we go in, he will be in his own bedroom.
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So he goes, king says, David says, hey bud, looks like you're sick.
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What can I do to help you? Any father would want to know how can I, what can I say? Remember, if David had at any disposal, anything, whether it be medicines, people to come heal him, any type of concoctions of herbs, teas, whatever.
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What do you need? He wants his sister to come cook and bake for him.
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I think in my mind, because we already know part of the story, what about her baking is going to heal him? I mean, it's not medicinal in her cooking, but that's what he does.
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So it says verse seven, David sent to the house for Tamar saying, go now to your brother Amnon's house and prepare food for him.
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So Tamar went to her brother Amnon's house and he was lying down and she took dough, kneaded it and made cakes in his sight.
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Understand that what has just taken place is not something coming on, popping open some instant biscuits and putting them in a pan and putting them in the oven.
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No, no, no, this is going to take some time.
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And as this unfolds, he is watching her.
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He is, those sinful desires are playing out more and more and he is cultivating for that right moment.
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Now, there's nothing wrong with me coming home, seeing Sybil cooking in the kitchen and getting me a smooch and a squeeze.
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Okay, there ain't nothing wrong with that.
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There's something wrong with this.
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There's something wrong with a guy that says, man, I want her to come here.
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I want to sit on this bed as I am sick and I'm going to burn in his loins with lust for his sister and then cultivate that all the more as she is working.
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It says that she took the dough and she kneaded it, did it all in his sight.
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She took the pan and the dishes and dished them out before him, but he refused to eat it.
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So now he has got to get her in a place to where he can be alone with her or he can take advantage of her.
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And she seems, okay, this is in no way, shape, form or fashion, Tamar's fault.
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I want you to understand that.
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It's not her beauty that's caused this.
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It's not her cooking that's caused this.
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This is all at the feet of Amnon.
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But is it me or does she seem somewhat a little naive? Is it me? If it is, say, hey Mike, I think you're wrong.
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But you just really don't know what kind of relationship they had.
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Like you don't know if she felt comfortable around him.
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Correct.
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Previous, she could have just been totally at ease.
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Does it seem odd though? Yeah.
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But she could have left at any time.
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Sure, it just, she, I'm not saying naivety is sinful.
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I'm not saying she's stupid.
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I'm not, I don't mean that type of thing.
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I just, it's all, just to me as I'm listening, like man, something, and you could be right, Steven, that she just felt comfortable.
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This may have been normal.
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It doesn't seem normal in the narrative.
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Go ahead.
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Well, it will.
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No idea.
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That's, when I, when I, yeah, when you read the, I mean, and I've tried to read it any way possible to go, man, what about her cooking's gonna heal him? Yeah, I mean, to me, that should have been a red flag, King David.
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But I believe his conscience, since that effect, and his judgment came upon him, I think that had a lot to do with this.
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Oh, I believe, no doubt.
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No, it raised a red flag.
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No, no doubt.
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Conscience is different now.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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The ruin of David, we're seeing it.
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This is the downwards file of his ruin.
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This goes back to what Nathan told us.
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Yeah, this is part of the ruin of David.
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So certainly, his judgment had been impaired.
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Could he have just been in there and said, you know what, whatever he wants, take care of it? I don't wanna deal with it.
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Now, we can talk about how, as we go through this, they say David was a bad father.
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Hey, these are grown men, okay? We don't know what David's life was like with his children, just to let you know.
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I think that is a, I don't know in boxing, what a rabbit punch is, that's in the kidney.
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And I think that's a rabbit punch to David, because we don't know what David did with his children.
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We don't know the relationship that they had when they were young.
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We know what happens when they're older.
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We know what they were.
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I think down here where it says he wanted to see her make his bread, was he? No.
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No.
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Probably should have.
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No, I was kidding.
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I was kidding.
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I was kidding.
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I wasn't doing it.
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She's supposed to be sick, and he wants to bring her over, come cook the bread where he can sit, and then he's not gonna eat it.
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Well, he, because the goal is to get her close enough to where he can grab her.
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And remember, he is wanting to watch her do it in his sight, so that creates some type of erotic.
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I mean, she wasn't table dancing, she was cooking, okay? I mean, she wasn't, this was not Salmon dancing for Herod.
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This is a young woman cooking, doing, being hospitable.
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So yeah, was this a kind act for her to do? Yes, very kind.
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Was she hospitable? Yes.
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Do I think she was a little bit naive? I mean, just maybe that culture, dad says, go cook, she says, no problem.
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Let me put on some nice clothes, because remember, it says she's stressed up.
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She puts on some nice clothes, she walks out.
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Now, I do believe that the garments that she had to make her known as being a virgin was that she went from wherever it was the king's palace, wherever she was at, she went to the street.
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I do believe there was a, she was escorted.
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I don't believe that any shape, form, or fashion that the king's daughters just walked around, okay? We have no indication that they just walked freely, because she was a princess.
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So we have a prince and a princess together, and we're fixing to see them alone, and he's going to take full advantage of her.
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I also wonder, too, it's like, you know, I don't know how many kids David had at this point, but he had a lot of kids.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and especially as they grow up, like, it's hard to know everything about what they had.
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Yeah, and because the men were old enough to go to war, they were, I mean, 20.
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Gotta remember, David at this point, about my understanding, David is probably between 55 and 60 at this point.
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I could be wrong, but I'm just trying, based on, I look at, he was 70-year-old when he died.
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We know how long he's been, so we know we're in that middle time frame.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they're at least 20.
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Because he's been, he had Anon, he had Anon, Absalom, Gilead, Daniel, anyway, those six or whatever it was that he had, he had in Hebron.
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So in Hebron, he was there seven years, right? Is that right? Seven years in Hebron.
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So he was there.
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He's been in Jerusalem now at least 20 at this point.
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So they could be closer to 30, you're right.
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So we know they're at least that.
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And all these children are from a polygamous type? Sure, yeah.
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So trying to blend that.
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Absalom's from a pagan wife.
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Trying to blend that together? Absalom's from a pagan wife.
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And I do believe that was to keep David from taking over that land.
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I do believe that was the reason, because a lot of those marriages were done to make peace treaties and alliances and all that.
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But let's continue on so I can get to, try to get at least to a stopping point, because I know we're not going to finish.
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So it says, where was I at? And 10, then Anon said to her, "'Bring the food into the bedroom, "'that I may eat it from your hand.'" Hmm, what's wrong with here? This is when I, this is like I said, do I go about being a little bit naive? Okay, brother, what's wrong with eating right here? Is the doughnut taste better in there than it does here? Why the bedroom? Maybe culturally, it was no big deal.
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I have no idea.
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Just in my mind, I'm going, she doesn't ask any questions, and it's not her fault.
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I want you to understand this has nothing to do with her.
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It's just as this unfolds, would you, if your brother says, "'Hey, come feed me in the bedroom.'" You'd be like, hey, what's up? That's a little weird.
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Hey, will you bring a Lego of my Eggo in the bedroom for me? No, you can get it yourself.
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I can't even bring a cup of coffee.
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So it says, when she brought them to him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her, "'Come, lie with me, my sister.' But she answered him, "'No, my brother, do not violate me "'for such a thing is not done in Israel.
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"'Do not do this disgraceful thing.'" And in my mind, as I read these narratives, I get into it, and I can't help but hear her screaming.
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What are you doing? Don't do this.
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This is disgraceful.
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Don't rape me.
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And what does he do? He does it anyway.
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Now, we don't know, just wanna back up to chapter 12, we don't know what Bathsheba said.
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We don't know if, how do we don't know that Bathsheba may have said the very same thing to David? We have no idea.
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Both of them were wrong.
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Both of them were violating a woman that was prohibited by the Mosaic legislation.
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And I've said it before, I'll say it again.
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David either did it by flattery or by force.
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We know how he did it here.
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He did it by force, and he should have been put to death under the Mosaic law.
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And he says, as for me, where could I go to get rid of this reproach? Once she is violated, she is raped, under this culture, she's ruined goods.
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She is, she's done.
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We don't quite understand it from this culture because fornication is prevalent.
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Sex before marriage is just common.
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I mean, it's almost expected before you get married so that you know what you're getting yourself into, okay? But in that culture, that's not how it was seen.
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She would have lost her virginity, whether it was by force or by just willful desires.
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Yeah, and who would want her at that point? And under that culture, nobody.
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That's why she says, how am I going to be able to remove this reproach? And as for you, you will be like the fools of Israel.
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Does anybody else have another word for fool in there? Okay, I don't know if anybody had Belial or son of fool or something like that.
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It's basically be one who's godless in Israel.
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Anytime you see one that says, just like when it talks about the fool says in their heart, there is no God.
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That is technically speaking, that's not talking about someone who does not believe that there's a God in heaven.
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I know that's often how it's used, but you would have never found anybody in Israel that didn't believe there was a God in heaven, okay? It's, excuse me, it's living your life and doing things as if you're not going to be accountable before God.
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You're living your life as if there is no God, not that you don't think there's one, that even if there is a God, he's not gonna hold me accountable.
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And she's saying, look, you're gonna be like one of those fools in Israel who thinks that God's not gonna hold him accountable for his actions.
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He's going to.
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And now therefore, please speak to the king.
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And this is that kind of weird thing.
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Now, therefore, please speak to the king for he will not withhold me from you.
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I believe at that point, she is pleading, you go ask my dad.
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And if he gives me to you, that's what I'll do.
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That's what I believe she's saying here in an attempt to at least break away, to get away to where she can be safe.
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Do you, does anybody here think David would have given her to him? Not at all.
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And we know that David would not, even as it unfolds, because once this takes place, although David didn't do anything, David was very angry at Amnon for what had happened.
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Very angry.
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It says, however, in verse 14, he would not listen to her.
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And since he was stronger than she, he violated and lay with her.
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He did, his plan had come to fruition.
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He thought he was going to maybe talk her into just doing it on her own, which seemed really odd.
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But now, because he was the man of the house, the male, by and large, is a stronger man.
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He is, a man is bigger, stronger, can overpower the weaker vessel.
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I don't think weaker vessel always just means physical, but in this case, we know it was physical because it says he overpowered being stronger than her.
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He raped her and lay with her.
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And does everybody say violate and lay? It's almost like saying the same, what does yours say? What does the end of verse 14 say? Verse 14, it said he was stronger than her.
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Yeah, see, it's the double, it's saying the same thing twice.
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It's saying he lay with her, meaning he slept with her, but the way that he slept with her was by force and violating her.
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And he, rape would have had him stoned outside the camp.
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Not, okay, it would have had him, it would have had him pick up large stones and crushed his head.
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Now, there are some ways that they say that it actually took place and extra biblical writings is that they took them to a cliff, they tied their hands behind them or took them to a ledge, pushed them off and then pelted them.
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Yes, correct, I was gonna bring that up, you're right.
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Yeah, when they took Jesus outside Nazareth to the cliff or the ledge or however it says to a steep point, they were gonna, they wanted to push Jesus off and they were basically gonna stone him is how we understand that.
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Man, would that not have been crazy? They could push Jesus, he was like, whew.
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Yeah, started walking.
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All right, talk to y'all later.
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So verse 15 changes Amnon's view of his sister.
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Remember, he was absolutely infatuated with her beauty.
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He was in love with her.
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From the way we read the text, it's almost as if he would have married her, he was so in love with her.
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But here it is, the damage is done, he's got what he wanted, his desire has been fulfilled and it says this, Amnon hated her with a very great hatred.
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What an idiot, what an idiot.
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The sin and the desire to do what he wanted to do then got him what he wanted and then he hated the very thing that he got.
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That is what sin does every time.
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It prepares you to have much pleasure and in a split second of pleasure or however long that pleasure lasts in whatever capacity, soon as it's over, guilt, hatred, don't want it.
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And I do believe he felt guilt, I do believe that.
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I do believe that's what caused the hatred.
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Oh man, now she's, now the very thing that I wanted I don't want anymore because it's wrong.
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Do I think he was repentant? No, I do not, okay.
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I don't want you to think that for one second.
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It says, for the hatred which he had for her was greater than the love in which he had for her and Amnon said to her, you get up and get out, go away.
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Once again, back to chapter 12, we wonder what was the conversation with David and Bathsheba.
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It says that once she had her purification, that she went home.
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Did David do the same? Look, we understand that with David, it was a one-time thing.
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This wasn't an ongoing relationship with Bathsheba until he brought her into his home as his wife after he had killed Uriah.
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Did he do the same thing to her? Get out.
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Wait for the time of your purification, which would be until after the sunset.
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Remember, under the Mosaic law, if there was intercourse because of the seminal fluids that are passed between the man and the woman, they were unclean until night.
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That's just how it was.
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It doesn't mean they were sinful, they were just unclean until night.
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That's what it's talking about.
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David's telling her, all right, once you get cleaned up, you're good to go home.
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But get out.
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He says, tells her to get up and get out.
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And she said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Because this wrong in sending me away would be greater than that which you have done to me.
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Why would she have said that? You send me away, that's gonna be worse than what you have done to me.
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Certainly would have made it public right away, but it would, under the Mosaic legislation, if they did have sexual intercourse, if it was too non-incestuous, okay? The man, if it was consensual, it was at that point, behest to the both of them to get married because there was a consummation of what had happened.
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So she is saying, it'd be better for you to marry me than send me out.
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That's what she's saying.
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Is what she's saying still somewhat confusing? Yes.
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I mean, you're talking about a woman who's just been violated.
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He's telling her to get out and she's saying, hey, if I go out, it'll be worse than staying.
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It'd be better for me to stay.
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There's gonna be, and I do believe in her mind.
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I know it's hard for us to get in there is that she knows she's damaged good.
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It'd be better for her to stay.
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Be better for him to take care of her and quote, marry her.
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She knew the law.
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Yeah.
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She was a godly.
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Yeah, we have no reason to believe that Tamar was not a God-fearing, Yahweh-loving worshiper.
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None at all.
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This is all at the feet of Amnon.
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Every bit of it.
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She used everything.
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Well, and part of it under Jonadab.
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I think Jonadab played a role in that because he's the fixer.
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And I do believe he fixes, he's part of what fixes Amnon too with Absalom.
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I mean, her, everything that she used to try to build.
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Sure, yeah, yep.
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So, yet he would not listen to her.
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And then he does this.
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He doesn't even have the respect for his sister.
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All right, I'm gonna walk you to the door.
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He calls the attendant.
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I can, and like I said, my mind, and I see, like as I'm watching a movie when I'm reading sometimes, to see the calls his attendant, which would have been probably a guard or something.
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You grab her.
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He grabs that girl by her arms and he throws her out the door and locks the door behind her.
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Get out.
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Now, throw this woman out.
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My presence, lock the door behind her.
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And she had a long sleeved garment.
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For in that manner, the virgin daughters of the king dressed themselves in these robes.
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Then his attendant took her, locked the door behind her and thrust her out.
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And Tamar put ashes on her head and tore her long sleeved garment, which was on her.
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And she put her hand on her head and went away crying aloud as she went.
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I mean, this is just a woman that is broken.
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And what's that? Yeah, in more ways than one.
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One.
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What's that? Yeah, this is certainly a traumatic experience.
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I mean, violent rape is much different, still rape, than a man flattering a woman to take advantage of her.
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This was, forced her.
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There was a fight.
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There was a plea to please don't do this.
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And he did it anyway.
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Now she leaves.
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She's, I mean, I just, I can't imagine what was going through her mind as she's walking down the street.
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And at this point, she probably no entourage to walk her back to David.
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No one there to escort her home.
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She's walking down the street, hand on her head, ashes on her, stripped her sleeves off, so that she, basically, I'm unclaimed.
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Yeah, oh, yeah, I would say, yeah, probably.
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Yeah, she'd have rather died than went through the situation she had just went through.
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And so she went down through the streets crying aloud as she went.
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Then it says in verse 20 that Absalom, her brother, said to her, as has Amnon, your brother, been with you? And does that strike anybody as being, dude, it was seems as if it was well known, at least to Absalom, that Amnon was infatuated with Tamar.
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Because what does he say? He doesn't say, have you been with someone else? He says, has you been with your brother Amnon? And the culture of that time was that the brothers were actually the guardians of the virgin sister.
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Sure, yeah, so this man that was supposed to take care of her and protect her has now, Amnon, has actually done the very thing that he was supposed to protect other people from doing to her.
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Now, Absalom says, has Amnon, your brother, been with you? What's the answer? Yes, yes.
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But now keep silent, my sister.
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This is your brother and do not take this matter to heart.
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Now, there might be some people, and you may feel this way, that what he's saying is heartless.
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It may be cold.
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He's not consoling her.
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I don't think that's what he's saying.
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I don't think he's saying it at all.
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We already know that he loved and cared about her much.
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What he's saying, I gotcha.
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What has happened to you will not go unnoticed.
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Don't make a big deal about it.
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We don't want this all over the news.
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We don't want this all through the cities of Jerusalem.
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We don't want everybody knowing what has happened and this get blown out of proportion that the kingdom is falling apart.
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I will take care of it.
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I will handle it.
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And it says, so Tamar remained.
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And look how, this is a part about Absalom that I like.
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It's, look at it.
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So he says, so Tamar remained and was desolate in her brother's, Absalom's house.
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And Absalom took care of her.
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Absalom loved her.
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I mean, he's like, look, he knows she's damaged goods.
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Desolate for the rest of her life.
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And we know that he, Absalom's going to die, but for the time that she stays with him, he takes care of her.
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And he makes sure that all of her provisions, protection, everything is taken care of.
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And that to me, as a brother and as a man go, man, that is a respectable thing to do.
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I'm not saying what he did to Amnon is respectable, although I understand, okay? I'm saying what he does to his sister is respectable.
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I don't think what he was saying was heartless.
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I don't think he was saying, suck it up.
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He's not saying that.
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I'll take care of it.
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Come to me.
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I'll take care of you.
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Come into the house.
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I'll make sure you're taken care of.
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Hey, and she never married.
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Never kids.
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I mean, what that culture, what was the, oh man.
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I mean, the fruit of the womb was, that was showing that God blessed that woman.
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Marriage showed that that woman was blessed and she never, never got any of that.
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And it says in verse 21, now when David heard all of these matters, he was very angry.
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But Absalom didn't speak to Amnon, either good or bad, for Absalom hated Amnon because he had violated his sister.
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Now it came about that, oh, we'll stop right there.
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We'll pick up in 23, because that actually starts another narrative.
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And we'll pick up there next week.
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So we understand that David doesn't know what has happened.
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David's very angry.
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How we, what we feel about how David handled it is somewhat subjective in the sense of, should David have handled it and took care of it? Yes.
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I don't know if there's anybody in here that would put their son to death.
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Why do you think if a man commits a crime, he doesn't stand before his father as the judge? Because he's always going to be lenient.
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Imagine David going, okay, although David was angry, David's like, this is the heir to the throne.
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Imagine how confused David was at this point.
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Is this going, is this going to pass? That's, I mean, David's very well.
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Is this going to blow over? He knows what has happened.
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Should he have addressed it with Amnon? Yes.
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Did he? Based on the narrative, we have no idea.
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We assume that he never said a word.
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Is Amnon probably a spoiled brat? The chief Walden, if you will.
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In other words, I would venture to say that no other person in the kingdom reasonably could have done that and gotten away with it.
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100%.
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Anne, good.
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No, Anne, I think it's by absolutes, by not even going to the king to petition him to uphold the law of the starfleet, because Absalom would have known, too, that his brother should have been stoned.
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Yeah, and my understanding is if it did come to the king, and you probably know more, because of Sanhedrin, there would still have been a group of elders, correct? The structure? It would have gone to the courts.
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So David did have the authority to say, hey, kill this guy, because we have seen that in Scripture, but when a man commits a crime like that, it's not like they stand before David, and David says, strike the guy down.
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They actually had what would be called due process.
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They would have to go see if the violation was true, which it would have been, and David would have still had to say, it's good and great that they put him to death.
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There's nobody in here that would give their children to be put to death.
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Oh, that was his obligation.
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Yeah, I want you to understand, yeah, that he is obligated to do that, as the monarch.
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And do you think his hands, he might have, he said, you know, this Bathsheba thing's coming back on me now.
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How can I make a decision? Well, I think Amnon could very well say that.
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I think he could have said, who are you, imagine him confronting him.
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We got to get ready to go.
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I can imagine Amnon and him coming up, who were you, dad, to tell me about Wraith and someone when you did the same thing to Bathsheba, you had a child, God struck the child dead because He didn't want to have you blaspheme His name throughout the nations.
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You tried to cover it up by killing her husband, and then now you've married her.
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But also, we go back and look at the statement that David made when he was called on the carpet by Nathan.
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He repented.
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Well, he repented, but when he heard the story, he knew that that man should have been put to death, was willing to do it at that time, but the same thing come to him here, and totally different outcome.
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Because his emotions are so involved.
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Your emotions are so involved because that's your kid.
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Well, regardless of how it is or not, because we go back to Abraham, Abraham just put his son on the altar.
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But that wasn't a violent...
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But I mean, you look at that, I mean, David knew the law.
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The sister, everything, I think they knew where they should have been with the Lord and His rule.
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But if you look at it from the man's perspective, and we see it today in our laws.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, we see it very clearly in our laws that God is very by the book, and we're by our emotions.
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Yeah, and we're emotionally driven.
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We don't make decisions based on truth and facts.
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We base them on how do we feel.
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I'm not saying that David didn't have a rightful desire to not want to put his child to death.
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Yeah, I mean, but he was bound by the law and by the monarchy that day.
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He has to dispense justice where justice is necessary.
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Stephen, you'll pray us out, brother? Yes, sir.
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Continue to teach us in your word today that you would open our hearts and minds to receive the prepared word for what has been prepared to be delivered to us.
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God, that you bless Brother Keith as he does that in Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen.
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That's what she did.
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Hey, TV, sherry.