October 22, 2020 Show with Kurt M. Smith on “Thundering the Word: The Awakening Ministry of George Whitefield” (Part 2)

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last Thursday on the 15th of October, and that topic is the title

and theme of the new book by Kurt M. Smith, Thundering the Word, the Awakening

Ministry of George Whitefield, and Kurt M. Smith is pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist

Church of Pine Mountain, Alabama, in addition to being a prolific author, and it's my honor and privilege

to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Pastor Kurt M. Smith.

Amen.

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Let's say you're asking a question in regard to the theology of George

Whitefield, and perhaps you are beginning to wholeheartedly agree with that

theology, which happens to be nicknamed Calvinism, happens to be nicknamed Reformed theology, the doctrines of

sovereign grace, the doctrines of free grace.

We could go on and on with nicknames, but perhaps you're starting to see the

truth in these teachings, and you're a member of a church that is

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of Pine Mountain, Alabama, technically in Remlap, Alabama,

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Well, we had quite a fact -filled

interview last week on George Whitefield.

It always is surprising when you hear, not only surprising but disturbing to hear,

that there are people who not only opposed his ministry then, but there are even people who

oppose his legacy today, even those who share his

Calvinistic faith.

But, if you could, perhaps start off with just another

summary, especially for those who missed last week's show, who may be unfamiliar

with George Whitefield.

Give us a summary of who this great man of faith was.

A humorous quote by him, and I don't know if you're aware of the quote or if

you're aware of how dismayed Whitefield truly was, because it's a humorous

quote, so it's kind of hard to know, not knowing much of the

background, how, whether or not he was truly upset, or just

saying this in jest, but the quote that I remember was when he was watching

and hearing about the fact that many of the people that

had been led to Christ through his preaching and teaching and ministry, when he had found out that many of

them were becoming Baptists, he said something of the

effect, I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but it was something very close to, that many of

his beloved chicks had become ducks, and he was obviously making

a reference to a duck being something that frequently dips itself in water,

but are you familiar with that story?

Very familiar with that.

How badly did I remember the quote?

Thing that, or one person I should say, that we who are Reformed,

when we are on the receiving end of the slander that Calvinism

or Reformed people are those

that deaden or even rob the preaching of the Gospel

of its urgency and its passion and its compassion for the lost, and

George Whitefield is that person that most of us immediately first and foremost go to, what are you kidding me?

Do you know anything about George Whitefield?

Tell us about when he came to understand and embrace Calvinism

and why this is a slander or caricature that Calvinism and

Calvinists deaden the faith, rob

evangelism of its zeal and urgency, and compassion for the lost, because obviously

Whitefield, all of those things were actually hallmarks of his evangelism, the

zeal, the urgency, the passion, and the fact that he was out there, out

in the open air declaring these things because it was as if

we were under enemy attack or something.

The urgency was so great that he wanted everyone in the community within an earshot of his voice to hear

these warnings, and also not only the warnings, but the good news.

Of the Gospel

that

is

the

only

remedy

to

the

warnings.

Boy,

down

to

the

present

day.

Wow.

In the Apostle

Paul's

church, he said, when I came to

nothing among you except Jesus Christ

and

him

crucified,

Paul came

in unbelief

to

the

trial.

I

could

hardly

bear

such

unreserved

use

of

tears, and

the scope he gave to

his

feeling

and preaching

was,

he is

laid bare.

Lloyd -Jones

sure

appeals almost to the mind.

A sermon,

however,

is its application

to

the

English pulpit.

Oral

sermons

give example of this.

I'll just say some

of God's words

before I go further.

Yes, I

remember

when

I was a

new Christian,

or

perhaps

it

was

even

prior

to

my

regeneration.

When I was visiting the church where I eventually was saved and

baptized and became a member.

Having been raised in Roman Catholicism, I began visiting Calvary Baptist Church of

Amityville, Long Island, which is now Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island in Merrick, New

York.

But my first pastor, Mike Gaydosh, I remember as

a young Christian before I, or as I said before, as a

non -regenerate person being drawn, I remember distinctly

before I became aware that this is a normal thing with

true biblical preaching from the mouth of a true man of God, I began

wondering when I was hearing the sermons, is he airing my dirty

laundry in public here?

What's going on here?

He knows things about me, and I'm not sure I like the way that he's talking about this, and then it started to dawn on me,

this is just the Holy Spirit convicting me of what he's saying and what he's preaching.

And I can even remember clearly this woman who was

visiting, who was a friend of my late wife, and I remember during

a service, during a sermon that Pastor Gaydosh was preaching, she stood

up right in the middle of the sermon, and she walked very rapidly with an angry look on her

face out of the church.

And I got up and followed her out into the parking lot, and I said, what's going on?

Is there anything okay?

And she said, he's talking about me in public like that, and I don't like it.

He is, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

He's just preaching the Word of God.

No, he's talking about me.

And I said, well, that's the Holy Spirit convicting you.

He's not airing your dirty laundry, as I had once thought he was doing about me.

And it's a good sign if you think that that's what he's doing, because that's a sign that your heart is

being pricked, and that you're being drawn to the truth.

So that is a, I think that's a phenomenon that should be happening

during every sermon, and it will be happening during the sermons of truly faithful.

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continuing part two of a discussion that we began last Thursday with

Kurt M. Smith, the pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church of Pine Mountain, Alabama.

We began part one last week, and today we are on part two of Thundering the Word, the awakening ministry

of George Whitfield.

And one thing I wanted to ask you before I go to some listener questions is that earlier on

you were quoting some of the glowing commendations

of Bishop J .C. Ryle for George Whitfield.

Bishop Ryle lived about 100 years after George Whitfield, if I'm not mistaken,

and he was speaking with such high terms, I am assuming

that Bishop Ryle, the great Calvinist bishop of the 19th century,

I'm assuming he must have been ashamed by the way fellow Anglicans treated

George Whitfield in his day.

I'm sorry, you were muted the very first few seconds of what.

You

were

saying.

I'm

sorry.

I have

an

anonymous

listener,

and

this

anonymous

listener

says,.

I have grown very much acquainted with and fond of a

number of Anglican ministers, scholars, authors, and

rectors, and one thing that puzzles me about them

that they seem to share with many Presbyterians is that on the one side of their mouth

they are declaring that the Church of Rome has a false gospel in its

official sense as dogma as cited in the Council of Trent, but at the other side of the

mouth they view the Church of Rome as a true church in spite of

the serious heresies that it continues to cling to as official dogma.

Now I am the first to say that I believe many Roman Catholics will be in heaven because in spite of

their false church they believed in the true gospel, whether it's out of naivete

over what the Church of Rome truly teaches in their dogmatic statements, or whether it's some

sort of act of rebellion or attempt at reform, that they remain in the Roman Catholic Church

knowing that their gospel is at odds with their own, but I don't

understand how you can claim that a church is a true church and yet have a false gospel,

and I don't mean to say all Anglicans say this, and I don't mean to say all Presbyterians do, but

what is your view of this and what was George Whitefield's view?

There are quite a number of Anglicans that I have encountered who would be equally

abhorred by the heresies of Rome, who are strict 39 articles men, which is a

clearly Calvinistic confession, so we don't want to broad

brush, we know that there is an Anglo -Catholic movement in the Church of England which these

low churchmen and these Calvinist Anglicans seem to abhor with varying degrees.

I'm not saying that they're all on the same exact page, but it is a

mixed group, that's for certain, and so Whitefield would

not have been in agreement with, and remember, I think our guest, in fact I know,

our listener, I should say, not our guest, listener is correct to say that many Presbyterians share this view of the

Church of Rome being a true church with some falsehood rather than a false church with some

truth.

That was also the position of Norman Geisler, Hank Hanegraaff, who

is now an Eastern Orthodox member, but was

raised in the Christian Reformed Church, Hank Hanegraaff, so

that is a position that I find quite puzzling myself.

I don't understand how you could admit that the Church of Rome has a false gospel and still call it a false church, and do

you think that a lot of that has to do with the misunderstanding of what we are saying when

we say the Roman Catholic Church, because some of these folks, when I've had conversations with some of them, they think

we are ignoring or discounting the great benefits and contributions of the

patristic era, the church fathers, and so on, but they were not Roman Catholics.

Roman Catholic dogma, with the Roman attached to it,

was not, especially when it comes to the doctrine of the gospel, was not formally defined and

declared until Trent, which was after the Reformation, so we believe that there were centuries

of true Christians and teachers and.

Scholars in the Catholic

Church

with a

small

c prior

to

that,

right?

And

we have to go

to our.

Midway break right now.

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Give us your first name, at least, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

And Kurt, you were saying just before the break, you were saying that

Whitefield did not hold the common position that is held today,

even by many good, solid men who otherwise, uh, and denominations and

churches and fellowships, uh, who hold the view that the Church of Rome has a false

gospel but is a true church.

A very strange way of viewing things, but you were saying before the break that Whitefield rejected that notion.

Yes.

Of

course,

some of the

arguments

against

what

you're

saying by,

uh, those

who are.

In denominations that claim the magisterial reformers as their fathers in the faith,

some would say, yeah, but the reformers never were rebaptized.

So that's proof that the reformers did not believe that the Church of Rome was a false church in

spite of its falsehoods that are intermingled.

But one thing is that many of those were baptized

prior to the Council of Trent, and also the idea that

they were not rebaptized may have only been rooted

in the fact that the act of obedience of being baptized, or baptizing,

does not require the fact that those being, that

those baptizing, the ministers baptizing, be saved.

You know, if Judas baptized anybody, that didn't mean that the persons

who Judas baptized had to be rebaptized.

And of course, we don't believe in baptismal regeneration anyway,.

But

I

guess

that

could be

a

part

of

their

excuse,

correct?

Yes.

Great

Presbyterian

who.

Did not believe in accepting Roman Catholic baptism,

J. H. Thornwell, and in fact you could get a book

that he wrote.

It's under a new title that he did not title this work, Sacramental

Sorcery, the Invalidity of Roman Catholic Baptism, by James

Henley Thornwell.

He was a southern Presbyterian theologian of the mid -19th century, but you could

get that book, and it's also, I think, included in a larger work,

a larger volume from Banner of Truth.

But so not all Presbyterians or Pado -Baptists accept Roman Catholic baptism,

although I think today those that reject Roman Catholic baptism would be a minority.

And to reiterate, J. H. Thornwell believed in Pado -Baptism, he just didn't

believe in accepting Roman Catholic baptism, or Eastern Orthodox, I would

assume, or the baptism of anybody that had a false gospel.

Let's see here, we have Grady from Asheboro, North Carolina.

Oh, let me just quickly remind our anonymous listener, if you give me your full name and your

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We have Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina, a very faithful and loyal listener to this

show, and also a faithful financial supporter of this show.

Greetings brothers Chris and Kurt, I read that Whitefield was often heckled and even physically abused

while preaching.

Do we know how he handled those instances?

Yeah, I think we did bring this up last week, if I'm not mistaken.

Perhaps I'm thinking of my interview with Roger Salter, the Reformed Anglican in Alabama, who

was discussing George Whitefield with me not long ago, and perhaps you know the exact

story.

I think that, were not like cattle even set loose amongst

the crowds of Whitefield's open -air sermons, or if it wasn't cattle, it was some other

animal,.

Am

I

mistaken

on

that?

And

specifically,

the

questioner

was

wondering

how

Whitefield

specifically reacted

to

these

things.

Well,

make

sure

we have your

full

mailing

address.

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We thank you so much for your graciousness.

We have another very faithful and generous supporter of this show,

listening, who has sent us a question, Lou from Sharpsburg, Georgia, and Lou, I believe you

sent in a question last week, so you're only getting that one book.

Sorry, pal.

But Lou says, when Whitfield preached open air, did he use notes or just from

memory?

Also, do you encourage open air preaching today, and if so, do you know of any ministries doing

it faithfully, and what counsel would you give to those partaking in it

today?

Excellent questions.

In fact, the men that I know that are involved in open air preaching who are

biblically solid and reformed will admit that in their experience,

the majority of what they see and hear from other open air preachers is bad,

very bad, and you have a lot of mavericks who are not members of local

churches.

They're not sent out with the blessing of biblical elders

out into the open air to preach, and those that I know and have friendships

with that are reformed and have a high view of the church, they are sent

out with the blessings of their elders to do this, and their elders know that they are

knowledgeable enough in the word that it could be properly handled, just as if you were having a

guest preacher ascend into your pulpit.

You don't want anybody to do that, just anybody, so you don't want anybody just going out

into the open air who could be leading people away from Christ.

That's exactly right.

And I have an excellent book to recommend that I'd also

like to recommend, not the sermons, the interviews that I did with the authors on the show.

The book is A Certain Sound, a Primer on Open Air Preaching by Ryan Denton and Scott

Smith.

It's published by Joel Beeky's publishing ministry, Reformation Heritage Books.

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So I just thought I'd give that a plug as well.

We have Christopher from Suffolk County, Long Island, New York, who asks, Was George Whitefield an

ordained minister in the.

Church of

England?

Well, thank

you, Christopher.

You've also won a copy of Thundering the Word.

By our guest Kurt M. Smith.

We have another anonymous listener who asks,.

One thing that has disturbed me about some of my close friends who are Reformed is

they think all Arminians are damned.

But I know that could not have been the case with George Whitefield, because in spite of his

very sharp contrast in theology with his friend John Wesley,

they still remained very close and loved each other and considered each other brothers in

Christ, in spite of the fact.

That

their

theology

on

certain

points

was very

different.

Would

you

concur?

In

fact,

so

high

was.

The esteem with which Whitefield held Wesley that he requested that Wesley

would be the preacher at his funeral on the day when Whitefield

died.

And sure enough, that's exactly what happened, that John Wesley preached at George Whitefield's funeral.

And as I've mentioned before, the letter that Kurt

is referring to, George Whitefield's letter to John Wesley on election, is the letter that the Lord

used to open my eyes to the truths of the doctrines of grace.

And it wasn't because of George Whitefield per se, because I didn't

even know who George Whitefield was at the time.

I was a new believer, and I didn't know who Spurgeon was, I didn't know who Calvin was, I

didn't know who any of the great heroes of the Reformed faith were, so it didn't matter to me one

way or the other would not have impressed me that George Whitefield himself said what he said.

But the biblical evidence that he poured into that letter to

Wesley is what the Lord used to open my eyes to these truths.

And I just want to quickly read something that John Wesley wrote to George Whitefield, just to show

our listeners the love that they had for one another.

We have John Wesley saying, My dear brother, I thank you for yours, May the 24th.

The case is quite plain.

There are bigots both for predestination and against it.

God is sending a message to those on either side, but neither will receive it unless from one

who is of their own opinion.

Therefore, for a time, you are suffered to be of one

position, and I of another.

But when his time is come, God will do what man

cannot, namely, make us both of one mind.

Then persecution will flame out, and it will be seen whether we count

our lives dear unto ourselves, so that we may finish our course

with joy.

I am my dearest brother ever yours, John Wesley.

And George Whitefield responds,.

Thus, my honored friend, I heartily pray God to hasten the time for his being clearly enlightened

into all the doctrines of divine revelation, that we may thus be closely united in principle

and judgment, as well as heart and affection.

And then, if the Lord should call us to it, I care not if I go with him to

prison or death.

For like Paul and Silas, I hope we shall sing praises to God and count it our highest

honor to suffer for Christ's sake and to lay down our lives for the brethren.

And that was George Whitefield in London, August 9, 1740.

I was very saddened when I

arranged and emceed and moderated a debate on

election and free will between my friend, James White, who you know very well, a

Reformed Baptist apologist, and a Fundamentalist Baptist friend of mine who rejects

the specific teachings of the doctrines of sovereign grace.

I was very dismayed that there were Reformed brethren in the

audience who later chastised me with great anger that I read

Wesley's part of that exchange that I just read on the air.

They were of that camp that basically believed Wesley and all Arminians will be in hell.

So it's a very sad thing.

But I would say that in my experience,.

That is a

tiny

minority.

Would

you

also

claim

that as

well?

In

fact,

I'm going to

have

you.

Pick up right where you're leaving off right there when we return.

We have to go to our final break right now.

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And if you could, you were talking about a letter that was in response

to the sectarian Calvinists who were upset with Whitfield that he embraced

Wesley as a brother.

If you could.

Tell

us

about

what

you

were

just

about to

say.

Yeah.

Well, we

are

out

of

time,

and

I

want

to.

Make sure that our listeners have your contact information again.

The website of Providence Reformed Baptist Church of Pine Mountain,

Alabama, located specifically in Remlap, R -E -M -L -A -P, Alabama, that

website is PRBC, which stands for Providence Reformed Baptist Church,

1689, for the 1689 London Baptist Confession .org.

That's PRBC1689 .org.

I want to thank you so much, Kurt Smith.

You're always such a joy and a pleasure and a privilege to interview, and also a fountain of knowledge every

time you're on this program.

I look forward to your return.

Very soon.

Enjoyed it, brother.

And I want to thank everybody who listened today, especially.

Those who took the time to write.

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