Is God Really with Us? Exploring Doubt and Faith
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Jon and Justin discuss our pietistic tendencies and how they affect our peace and understanding of God's nature and posture towards sinners.
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- It's a hard thing to do, John, when you're always ruled by performance and hyper -introspection, and am
- 00:06
- I doing enough? Is the Lord with me? We suspect that He's not. Does He see? Does He know?
- 00:12
- Does He care? Our suspicion is that He doesn't. Is the Lord with us? Is He in this?
- 00:18
- I mean, how can we know? It's gotta be in things that we can see and measure. Does the Lord— like, will
- 00:24
- He really save me? In the end, like, will I finally be saved? How can I know? I gotta do enough.
- 00:30
- Does the Lord really delight in me? Does He really, like, take joy in saving me?
- 00:35
- How can I know? I gotta be good enough. This is what we do. That's right.
- 00:41
- Yeah, that's right. What's interesting, I've been doing more and more just reading of the Old Testament.
- 00:47
- You're in Exodus, so this will resonate with you. It is interesting how much
- 00:53
- Israel will project on God the theology they received from Egypt.
- 01:00
- In that God is transactional, He's angry, He must be appeased. And so it's easier to appease these other gods because they're not as scary as Yahweh.
- 01:10
- So we're going to go back to these ones. They're not holy like Yahweh is. That's right. And, you know, we kind of know what we're going to get.
- 01:19
- And so I'd rather take a lesser power and know what I'm going to get. And then
- 01:24
- God has to come in and correct their theology. I mean, how many Psalms are written about the love and mercy and kindness of God?
- 01:30
- Because Israel has to constantly be reminded of it because they don't believe it. They've never experienced, one, human love that way.
- 01:38
- But number two, they've never experienced a deity's love and affection in that way. And I think it's interesting that, you know,
- 01:46
- John is writing this conversation with Jesus and the conversation, sorry, with Nicodemus and Jesus.
- 01:54
- And the conversation doesn't go like this. God got so fed up with humanity. He finally had to send his son to correct it all.
- 02:01
- It's not what he says. He says, oh, the father loves so much that he sacrificed his son.
- 02:10
- And then Jesus says, do you want to know what the example of all supreme love?
- 02:17
- Like there is no greater love. You cannot out love in this way that someone laid down his life.
- 02:24
- And that's what I've done. And so when we think about our relationship with the king, it is not based upon a criminal who's like, well,
- 02:34
- I got to do my time and then I can be set free again. And then, you know, hopefully
- 02:39
- I won't mess up while in prison so that I can get out of good behavior. This is how we live. We live in a constant state of prison with God.
- 02:46
- And he's like, dear child, I love you. You've been set free. There is nothing that will ever separate you from.
- 02:53
- So first of all, I gave the ultimate sacrifice, which is my son. And there's nothing that will separate you from my love going forward.
- 03:02
- And Justin, when we don't take God at his word, we're calling him a liar. And it's not that it's one verse that is obscure.
- 03:09
- I mean, how many verses can we quote talking about the sufficiency of God's love for sinners? While we were yet sinners,
- 03:16
- Christ died for us. I mean, how many verses do we need to quote, right? We love because he first loved us.
- 03:22
- So pietism, it robs us and puts us back into this transactional prison where hopefully we'll get through the probation and God will finally love us because we deserve it.