August 7, 2020 Show with Adam Dooley on “Hope When Life Unravels” (Part 2)

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We have Adam B. Dooley discussing his book, Hope When Life Unravels,

Finding God When It Hurts.

And Pastor Adam is an author, conference speaker, and pastor of Englewood Baptist Church

in Jackson, Tennessee.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio.

Pastor Adam B. Dooley.

Chris, I am honored to be back with you.

Thank you for...

And if you could, once again, remind our listeners about Englewood Baptist Church of Jackson, Tennessee.

Yeah, Englewood is...

And if anybody wants to look up more information about Englewood Baptist Church of Jackson, Tennessee, you can go to

ebcjackson .org, ebcjackson .org.

And EBC stands for Englewood Baptist Church.

And if you could, just to remind listeners, or to

inform listeners for the first time who didn't hear you on Monday, give us a summary of why

you wrote Hope When Life Unravels.

There was a frightening trial in your life with your son that was really the catalyst

behind this book.

And if you could let our listeners know.

Absolutely.

It

really

all

began

really

knowing...

Give us an update on the current condition of your son.

Yeah, my son just turned 13, and he will begin his...

Praise God.

Well, I just want to read a couple more endorsements for this book.

Dr. R. Albert Muller, Jr., the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says,.

This book powerfully illustrates the glory of suffering God uses excruciating trials

in the lives of His people for eternal and lasting purposes.

It helps ground Christians in this hard truth, and it does so through personal narrative,

through a father recounting his son's battle with cancer.

This gripping story summons believers in Jesus Christ to an unthinkable faith in the

midst of life's challenges.

I'm sorry, an unshakable faith.

That was a misread there.

This story comes from a pastor who walked this valley with his family and has held his

suffering son through cancer treatments.

He now shares this story with Christ Church.

You will not want to miss it.

We also have from Herschel York, the dean of the School of Theology, and

Victor and Louise Lester professor of Christian preaching at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary,

says, Adam Dooley's writing exquisitely combines a pastor's heart and a theologian's

insight with the anguished cries of a grieving parent.

Offering no easy or glib answers, this story tore at my heart and then filled it with praise.

It eloquently conducted me through a child's hospital

room and into an empty tomb in Jerusalem.

What a word of hope and reassurance from suffering Christians who cannot understand why God has allowed their pain.

Some pretty impressive endorsements by very impressive people.

Well, I'm going to try to pick up where we left off last Monday.

But whenever we go through something like this or hear about a trial that

somebody is going through, it's not always about you, or it's not always

about us, those who are suffering.

If you could explain.

Yeah, this

was a

major

point

that

you

aren't

worthy

by

the

name

of

Christ,

really

not

worthy.

There is a saying, I believe it was, in fact, I'm certain it was John Piper,

who said, don't waste your cancer.

And you have a chapter in your book, Don't Waste Your Pain.

Explain further on that.

Well,

I

think

that's

against

us.

Even

though it's

primarily

humility

here, truly

valuable.

He gives us opportunities to share the gospel.

He makes us bold.

God forbid.

Praise God.

Isn't that, in and of itself, the fact that

whenever we're going through a trial, this is not, if

we believe in the sovereignty of God, and actually, it doesn't matter whether we believe in the sovereignty of God or not, it's still

true that it's something that didn't happen purely by accident.

It is not happenstance.

It is not serendipity.

It is not something that happened by chance, as they

say.

Everything that occurs comes from the hand of a loving God when it

occurs in the lives of his people.

And we can know, no matter how gut -wrenching the pain we are going through,

we can know, I can use this as an instrument

to let others know about Jesus Christ.

I can use this to benefit and bless others, to

give purpose to what we are facing.

Isn't that a very key element in finding comfort

ourselves?

Yes, I do think that is key, and I like the way you said that, because

we believe that God is

sovereign,

and it really

doesn't mean he

isn't

omnipotent.

He's so omnipotent, and he could prevent things.

Lest we forget,

faith is

rooted in the false

enemy in this,

and just as he said

in chapter 53,

or that God

is bigger than ourselves.

And what do you mean by the title of your chapter, Hanging On for Dear Life?

Well, Hanging On for Dear Life is where I wrote about

how he quickly

feared he would die, quickly went into remission of

leukemia, if you don't continue giving them chemotherapy.

You know, God, you

just have to hang on and remember God,

even when we don't see you.

Praise God.

Well, we have to go to our first station break right now.

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Tell us about life with an uninvited guest.

I think that's the way so many of our trials are.

Let's see, Bobby in Hartsdale, New York has a question for you.

Bobby wants to know, when does asking God for answers

about why we are suffering and even demonstrating anger toward God

cross the line into blasphemy?

That's a good question.

He

basically says,

I think that

God is somehow...

Joe, where were you?

23.

For what

I'm

getting,

I'm

hurt.

Thank you, Bobby.

We have an anonymous listener who asks, I have been going through some very

serious painful times in my life, and one of the things that actually

magnifies the pain and depression is when well -intentioned friends,

family members, and brothers and sisters in Christ are constantly asking me how

things are going with this trial.

It forces me to continually repeat those things that are actually bringing me pain,

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at the same time, when you're walking around after a worship service and constantly repeating

over and over and over again everything that is causing distress in your life, it can bring you

further into a pit of depression.

Also, I feel like I'm just walking around whining and complaining.

How do you suggest and counsel me to respond when I hear the

very well -intentioned questions, how are things going, and you don't want to just keep

regurgitating the same complaint and you don't want to keep summoning up pain in your

mind and heart?

Well, I really appreciate this question a lot, Chris, because I

need to acknowledge it, and

that is,

and

they

really

are

trying

to

also

think

that

you

can

do

that.

Well, that

actually,

I think,

is an

excellent

tip for

elders and

pastors,.

Who I think are the same office, by the way, but to have them

approach the people in their church that they know are going through severe trials and

say to them, would you like to get up either before service or

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I just want you to know that I'm here, and anything that you care to tell me, let me know, but I'll just pray

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I just want you to know I'm here for you.

I mean, wouldn't that be a good way to approach something?

Yeah, I think so.

And

I think

this

pattern

of

coming

is

one of

the, you know, even outside of a

church context,

great things that you can do.

In fact, can you pick up right where you left off there when we return from our midway break?

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In Psalm 139 verse 14, the psalmist offers praise to the Lord like this.

I praise you because I'm fearfully and wonderfully made and wondrous are your works that my soul knows

very well.

He saw God's goodness and mercy, kindness, and the beauty in what God has

designed and he has erupted into praise.

In any crisis or problem, brothers and sisters, our only fallback position is to trust God's

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Did?

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Thank you.

Welcome back.

This is Chris Ornsen.

If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the entirety of the program

is Adam B. Dooley, and we are discussing his book, Hope When Life Unravels, Finding

God When It Hurts.

This is part two of a discussion we began on Monday.

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questions to our guest Adam B. Dooley on his book Hope When Life Unravels,

Finding God When It Hurts, this is part two of a discussion that we

began on Monday, and we hope you join us on the air with questions of your own, and

Pastor Dooley, when we went to the midway break, I had to interrupt you, and you were right in the

middle of talking about how even though it can be a curse in

our lives, social media can also be a great blessing and gift from God, and

this technology affords us the opportunity to post things about the

trials that we are going through, to prevent the necessity of repeating over and

over and over again, the people, the same story of our woe, if you could pick up

where you left off there.

Well yeah, that is exactly the point.

Of saying something.

Amen, in fact, my

very first

pastor, Mike

Gaydosh,

who is the

founder

of

Solid.

Ground Christian Books, who sponsors this program,

when he knew I was in the hospital recently, in the first week of July actually, I was in the hospital with congestive

heart failure, and he took the mantle and set up,

or posted, I should say, a Facebook post

explaining in detail everything I told him that I was going through, and

he said, if you have further questions, contact me, meaning my friend Mike Gaydosh,

and I will try to get you updated as soon as possible, and as soon as Chris provides

these updates, and that was an enormous help to me, because I was in the hospital,

and although I loved getting many emails and texts,

and even phone calls from my precious friends, and even emails from people I

didn't even know all over the world, I really did receive a huge,

indescribably comforting blessing from that.

The only thing that was uncomfortable at times is when people wanted details,

and even though it wasn't such a horrific experience I was going through, I don't want to

exaggerate what I went through, but at the same time, you know, you're in the hospital, you don't really have the time to

answer emails over and over and over again, or even Facebook private messages,

so it was in fact very good for me to be able to say, when somebody would

ask me for details, go to Mike Gaydosh's Facebook page, and you could see his post,

and thank you, and I love you, it means so much to me that you reached out to me, and it did, and it does mean

a lot to hear from so many people, hundreds of people that I heard from,

with their well wishes and their promises to pray, but the only part, as

I said, that we have to all remember for our own lives when we reach out to those we love,

be careful about just demanding too much information.

I mean, it is a catch -22, because you don't want to seem like you're unconcerned or indifferent, but,

you know, I think the wise way to say it, like I mentioned earlier, is to say, I don't want to

bombard you with questions, as you're already being bombarded likely from other people, just let me know

whenever you're up to it, how you're doing and what's going on, and know that I'm here for you.

I think that would be the best way to approach those kinds of situations.

Well, I am pretty certain that this may have to do with what we

already touched on, but perhaps you want to expand on it, and I could be wrong, but I think you're probably talking about

Job's friends with your chapter heading, with friends like these.

Yeah,

another

anonymous

listener

who

says,

I

don't

know

if this

is

true,

but

I

have

heard.

Repeated on several occasions a statistic that couples

who lose a child in death very often end in divorce,

and this would even include Christian parents, and this would even include the

occasions when the death of the child was not at all, in any way, shape, or form, the

fault of either parent.

Do you know if there is any truth to this statistic, and why do you think

it occurs, if indeed it is true?

It's a fascinating question, because one of the things that I heard repeated...

Wow, you

mean by

the staff?

By staff members, and...

Well, it proved what you had heard, at least it seemed to back up, I should say, what you have heard.

It certainly did seem to be...

Yeah, it's amazing, because it's counterintuitive, you would think, unless of course, and I'm not

saying that this justifies a divorce, please, I don't want anybody to misunderstand me, but you could

more readily understand a divorce happening when one of the spouses

may have been guilty of somehow causing the death, even if it was unintentional, of

the child, but when it is completely beyond the realm of responsibility for

either parent, when the death is totally unconnected to something

either parent did, uh, you would think that such a trial would bring

them together more closely, and of course, I'm sure it does on many occasions.

Well, and

I can

certainly

see

where

the

window

of

opportunity...

We have another anonymous listener who says, did you find in your own

life that some of your other children began to become jealous

of the attention that you were giving toward your son who was sick, not that there was anything

intentional, and it may have even been a false assumption by the other children,

but I was wondering if you could say anything to this, because I know that other families do have the problem

of having the other children begin to find themselves in a position where they feel

they're being neglected, whether it is real or imagined.

Uh, yes,

again,

that's another

question that,

because they were so young,

they would write a book about me.

Of course, you could say to your children making those statements, how would you like to be the primary subject of my new book on

parental discipline?

Yeah, that just reminded me, I'm not going to take too long to talk about it, it just reminded me of many years

ago when I was a believer fresh out of the clutches of

a life of drunkenness, and I remember

a girl who was, I was in my 20s at the time, a

girl who was from a Christian home, born and raised since infancy, and in the

faith could never remember a time when she didn't believe in and love Jesus,

and she actually said to me, you know, sometimes I wish that I had gone through a

season of rebellion like you so that my salvation testimony would be more interesting and

would be used by God to draw people to salvation.

And I said, do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?

I mean, it's actually just another way of demonstrating the power and love

of God, that He preserved you.

And you could also be an extraordinary testimony to young people, perhaps especially,

knowing that it can be done, you don't need to cave in to peer pressure, you can follow Christ

and grow up to be a healthy and normal and productive and beloved person in your community

without having gone through some of these hellish nightmares that other people have been through.

Right.

Well, it's really an older brother.

Folks, I forgot to mention to all of you who have written in, even those of you who wrote in anonymously,

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And Adam, what is the most courageous faith?

Well,

Chris,

it

takes

more...

What are some of the answers that people unexpectedly get

that they weren't looking for when they're going through a crisis like the one that you've faced?

Again...

Praise God.

Well, I want to thank you so much for being such a superb guest once again.

I urge everybody to listen to part one of this interview, if you missed it, that was

conducted on Monday.

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I want to thank you, Pastor Dooley.

I look forward to your return to this program.

I want to thank everybody who listened today, especially those who took the time to write.

I want you to continue, please, to pray for those dear friends of mine who I mentioned on

Monday, in the beginning of Monday's program, my friend Dr. Latane C. Scott, who

is a former Mormon who converted to Christianity and has written a number of books.

She's been a guest on this program many times, and she just lost her husband, Dan, after 47

years of marriage after a long battle with a debilitating illness.

So please pray for Latane C. Scott, and pray for the Hill family, Jerry and Fern Hill, and their

surviving sons, Thaddeus and James, as

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I hope you all have a safe and blessed and happy weekend and Lord's Day.

And I hope you all remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.